Stability of Atoms in 3p

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Rajshree 1F
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Stability of Atoms in 3p

Postby Rajshree 1F » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:44 pm

I always understood the octet rule where the atom is most stable in that form. However, after learning about d-orbitals and exceptions to the octet rules, do these atoms have a different number that is the most stable or does it work differently?

Jay Solanki 3A
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Re: Stability of Atoms in 3p

Postby Jay Solanki 3A » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:52 pm

Hey!

So it is not exactly a specific number that makes it more stable, but it depends on the electron configurations of the atom and the specific compound. For instance, in PCl5, the P atom becomes the most stable when it has 5 bonded pairs since that best lowers the formal charge of the phosphorus atom. However, in the phosphate ion PO4^3-, you would have to interpret the various resonance structures to observe which model best lowers the formal charge. It may be one in which Phosphorus has more than 8 electrons or it may be a structure where phosphorus only has an octet, but the entire molecular structure relies on keeping the formal charge as low as possible. Hope this helps!

Kathy_Li_1H
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Re: Stability of Atoms in 3p

Postby Kathy_Li_1H » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:58 pm

Hi! I don't believe there is a specific numerical value that ensures stability within atoms but I believe it is based on whether the orbitals are filled, if they have 8 valence electrons, and minimizing the amount of formal charge.

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Re: Stability of Atoms in 3p

Postby Katherine_Douglas_1F » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:27 pm

It's not so much the number of electrons that make the molecule more or less stable but the formal charge. For a lot of atoms, this happens to be 8 valence electrons in different configurations of bonded pairs and lone pairs.


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