Expansion for 3s?

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samanthaywu
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Expansion for 3s?

Postby samanthaywu » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:51 pm

Does octet expansion apply to atoms with 3s valence electrons? I'm wondering if 3s energy is high enough for electrons to expand and occupy the 3d orbital.

Kailani_Dial_2K
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Re: Expansion for 3s?

Postby Kailani_Dial_2K » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:02 pm

If i am understadning your question correctly, no. Only atoms in the p-block from n=3 down can have an expanded octet, so I think for atoms that only have the 3s orbitals available to them they cannot form an expanded octet.

Jeremy Wei 2C
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Re: Expansion for 3s?

Postby Jeremy Wei 2C » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:33 pm

Hi, I'm pretty sure that atoms with 3s valence e- can't expand into 3d for ground state. I think the expanded octet concept mostly applies to the p-orbital if I'm not wrong.

Chinmayi Mutyala 3H
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Re: Expansion for 3s?

Postby Chinmayi Mutyala 3H » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:09 pm

No, it would need to have a d-orbital and atoms in 3s don't use the d-orbital.

Muskaan Abdul-Sattar
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Re: Expansion for 3s?

Postby Muskaan Abdul-Sattar » Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:33 pm

No, atoms in 3s do not use the d orbital.


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