octet expansions

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Sandra Kim 2B
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octet expansions

Postby Sandra Kim 2B » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:42 pm

In the recent lecture, Dr. Lavelle said that octet expansion involves d-orbitals but I feel like I have seen instances where elements like Si, P, and S have had expanded octets in their Lewis structures. Where do the d-orbitals come into play with these elements in the 3p orbital or is my brain messing with me?

Abby Lam 3F
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Re: octet expansions

Postby Abby Lam 3F » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:54 pm

Elements in 3p can have expanded octets because there is an empty 3d orbital nearby. I believe expanded octets go into the next orbitals (s,p,d,f) in the same subshell (n=3,4,5..). Elements in 2p cannot have an expanded octet because there is no 2d orbital.

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Re: octet expansions

Postby Sondia Luong 1C » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:26 pm

The d-orbitals are involved in expanding the octet because they allow for elements in the p-orbitals to expand. Usually, when drawing Lewis structures, the elements with expanded octets will be after the 2p orbital. I believe we won't be encountering d-orbital elements with expanded octets.


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