determining electronegativity

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Giovanni Anguiano-Gutierrez 3L
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determining electronegativity

Postby Giovanni Anguiano-Gutierrez 3L » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:28 pm

How do you determine electronegativity?

Vincent Leong 2B
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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Vincent Leong 2B » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:32 pm

electronegativity is just the tendency for an atom to gain electrons. If you think of it logically, atoms on the further right side of the periodic table would want to get one electron in order to reach the most stable form (aka noble gas configuration)

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby chemboi » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:34 pm

I don't think we have learned how to calculate actual values. We should know relative values, however.

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Anne Tsai 1F » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:35 pm

You would have to be given an electronegativity table to know the exact electronegativities of each atom, but generally you can follow the periodic trend (electronegativity increases across a row and decreases down a group).

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Kaylee Clarke 1G » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:07 pm

the periodic trend of electronegativity is increasing up and to the right of the PT

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby IreneGi2I » Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:21 pm

I don't think we would have to know how to calculate the actual electronegativity values. Since electronegativity is how strong an atom attracts electrons, you can memorize that fluorine has the strongest electronegativity on periodic table to find the general trend. F is located on the upper-right corner of the periodic table, it is easier to memorize that electronegativity increases from left to right and bottom to top!

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Rohit Srinivas 2D » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:34 pm

This is outside of the scope of this class, but it was cool so I searched it up. There is a person named Linus Pauling who made a scale to measure electronegativity from 0.79-3.98 (1-4). He assigned Flourine to be 4, and then calculated the rest through experimental observation. This is known as the Pauling scale. It is measured in Pauling units.

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby 705340227 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:39 pm

You can also look at how atoms' electrons behave in chemical bonds to determine the comparative electronegativity of the elements in the compound.

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Sean Phen » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:47 pm

I do not know the way to determine electronegativity, but there is a periodic trend for electronegativity which indicates the increasing electronegativity.

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Binyu You » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:47 am

Based on what Dr. Lavelle said, I think it depends on both ionization energy and electron affinity. The higher the ionization energy and electron affinity is, the higher the electronegativity is, thus meaning more shared electrons are being pulled toward it. The lower the ionization energy and electron affinity is, the lower the electronegativity is, meaning electrons are pulled further away.

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby jessicasilverstein1F » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:57 am

One thing that helps me is using the acronym FONClBrISCH from F being most electronegative in the periodic table

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby aashmi_agrawal_3d » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:39 pm

It increases to the right and decreases going down. You can also remember that fluorine is the most electronegative element to help you remember this trend.

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Izamary Marquez 2H » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:10 pm

With this being said, the closer the elements are in electronegativity, the more affinity they have, correct? I remember Lavelle saying something about this but I can't remember the exact rule..

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Alejandro Gonzalez 2G » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:21 pm

I don't think we've learned how to actually calculate electronegativity, just the trends in the periodic table (which for electronegativity, increases across a period and decreases down a group).

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Caelin Brenninkmeijer 1G » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:29 pm

It also helps to use the periodic trends. Electronegativity is calculated using ionization energy and electron affinity, so if ionization energy and electron affinity are high, then the atom will also have a high electronegativity. You can figure out the ionization energy and electron affinity by using period trends- both increase up a group and across a period.

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Diana Aguilar 3H » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:32 pm

I was also having trouble with determining electronegativity, thank you to everyone for the clarification, it really helped!

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Namratha Gujje » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:35 pm

I don't think we need to know a way to calculate the electronegativity of an atom. We do need to know the electronegativity trend on the periodic table of elements. It also wouldn't hurt to know what the most electronegative elements are. They are fluorine, oxygen, and nitrogen. I like to remember them by the term FON.

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Gustavo_Chavez_1K » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:06 pm

We can't necessarily determine an exact value for electronegativity, but what this class wants us to focus on is the period trend. So electronegativity increases when going up and to the right of the periodic table. This would make fluorine the most electronegative element on the table.

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby LovepreetSran_3H » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:10 pm

We're focusing more on the trend. Electronegativity increases as you move up and to the right on the periodic table.

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby 505612629 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:42 pm

I believe we've learned the trends of electronegativity of elements on the periodic table. (those closer to reaching octet by gaining electrons on the right vs those on the left)

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Mehreen 3I » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:50 pm

You will not need to know the specific calculations of electronegativity and if you do, they will be given to you. Just know the general trend of electronegativity and it is similar to ionization energy as mentioned in the lecture. The electronegativity of atoms increases as you move from left to right across a period in the periodic table.

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Chinmayi Mutyala 3H » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:46 am

Electronegativity increases as you go to the right and it decreases as you go down on the periodic table.

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Brian_Wu_3B » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:16 am

Top right corner (F) should be the most electronegative. As you move left or down, the electronegativity decreases

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Mia Meza » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:48 am

We haven't really learned how to calculate electronegativity but we do need to know the concept. What helps me is knowing that the left is more electronegative. The closer it is to F than I know it is more electronegative :)

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby LeahSWM 2E » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:57 am

On the periodic table, electronegativity increases from bottom to top in groups, and increases from left to right across periods!

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Dominic Benna 2E » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:28 pm

It increases as you go right across a period, and it decreases as you go down a group. So, Florine, for example, is the most electronegative atom.

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Jeremy Wei 2C » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:19 pm

The trend in the periodic table is that electronegativity increases left to right in periods / top to bottom in groups!

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Sondia Luong 1C » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:37 pm

If you ever have to calculate electronegativity, don't worry because the answer should already be given in the problem or on a periodic table! There are trends on the periodic table to determine levels of electronegativity. Electronegativity increases from left to right and decreases from top to bottom. It's useful to also know that fluorine has the highest electronegativity.

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby asalest 2K » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:31 pm

I just follow the periodic table trend. Electronegativity increases from left right and down up!

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Susan Chamling 1F » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:21 am

The general periodic trend for electronegativity is that it increases from left to right for periods and down to up for groups.

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Rose_Malki_3G » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:44 am

Electronegativity is essentially an atom's pull on electrons. The trend is that electronegativity increases as you go across a period and decreases as you go down a group

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Re: determining electronegativity

Postby Muskaan Abdul-Sattar » Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:25 pm

I think you should just be aware of its trend, it increases as you move up and to the right of the periodic table.


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