Dipole Moment Arrows

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Lauren Ton 4B
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Dipole Moment Arrows

Postby Lauren Ton 4B » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:00 pm

When you draw a dipole moment, the "old" way of signifying the dipole moment was an arrow pointing towards the negative charge. The more modern way to note a dipole moment is an arrow pointing towards the positive charge. Why did this change? And what do the arrows signify (if they signify anything besides a dipole moment)?

Thank you.

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Re: Dipole Moment Arrows

Postby FrancoNancy_Sec1L » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:39 pm

No, the dipole (arrow ) still points toward the negative charge.

Jennifer Aguayo 1I
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Re: Dipole Moment Arrows

Postby Jennifer Aguayo 1I » Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:09 am

Hi,
I agree, I think that the direction of the arrow does change. In the textbook on page 77 it says that:
The original, "old," is when the arrow points towards the negative charge.
In the modern convention, the arrow points towards the positive charge.
Lauren, I am not sure why this changed. Sorry

But my guess is that for the exam/for this class we will be using the original convention since that is what Dr. Lavelle went over during lecture. But I am not completely sure, please someone correct me if I am wrong.

Justin Le 2I
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Re: Dipole Moment Arrows

Postby Justin Le 2I » Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:36 am

For me personally, the old method for drawing dipole moment arrows is much clearer and understandable because there is a plus sign that is pointing towards the delta negative. If you still have questions, you can ask your TA.

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Re: Dipole Moment Arrows

Postby MattDavid1d » Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:16 pm

As far as I am aware, both ways are essentially the same with merely a reversal in sign. How it begins/last which way the arrow points is arbitrary as long as you remain consistent with that direction throughout the entirety of the problem.

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Re: Dipole Moment Arrows

Postby Chem_Mod » Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:33 pm

Dipole arrows should be drawn from positive to negative. That way, the direction the arrow points represents where an electron is more likely to be found.


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