Electron Spin Quantum Number  [ENDORSED]

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Stef Newell
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Electron Spin Quantum Number

Postby Stef Newell » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:38 pm

What values can the electron spin quantum number (ms) have?

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Re: Electron Spin Quantum Number  [ENDORSED]

Postby Nishma Chakraborty 1J » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:37 pm

Hi!
The electron spin quantum number (ms) can have values of +1/2 or -1/2. Hope this helps!

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Re: Electron Spin Quantum Number

Postby AnuPanneerselvam1H » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:49 pm

The electron spin number can be either +1/2 or -1/2. This just tell us whether the electron is spinning clockwise or counterclockwise.

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Re: Electron Spin Quantum Number

Postby Grace Ramey 2K » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:39 pm

I have a follow-up question. How is the spin of an electron (either +1/2 or -1/2) determined? Does the first electron to fill an orbital automatically have a +1/2 spin since we always represent it using an upwards arrow when writing out the electron configuration? Or is there no way to tell the exact spin?

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Re: Electron Spin Quantum Number

Postby Nishma Chakraborty 1J » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:38 pm

Hey!

To follow up, the direction of the first electron is always represented by an arrow drawn facing upwards (which signifies that the first electron has the +1/2 spin. The electron following is represented by an arrow pointing downwards because it has a negative +1/2 spin. This aforementioned is in reference to Pauli's Exclusion principle. Hund's Rule also states that all electrons in an orbital are first filled by the +1/2 sign. I hope this made sense, but if not, I found this neat article that explains some of the stuff in more detail (and with visuals). :) Here's the link:

https://chem.libretexts.org/Core/Physic ... ctron_Spin

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Re: Electron Spin Quantum Number

Postby Rachel Min » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:15 pm

I'm still confused about how exactly we (or whoever came up with this quantum number) got the numbers -1/2 and +1/2 to describe electron spin. Is there a more conceptual reason behind it? Or did some kind of math just work out like that?

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Re: Electron Spin Quantum Number

Postby Chem_Mod » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:39 pm

When Professor Lavelle discussed spin in class, he mentioned that the beam of silver atoms, when exposed to a strong magnetic field, split into two beams, which established the basis of our understanding of spin. Different sub-atomic particles have either integer or half-integer values of plank's constant for spin, which is related to the solutions to the schrodinger equation for the wavefunction of that particle which is beyond the scope of this class, but for more information to curb your curiosity perhaps check out this article https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... -the-spin/, the wikipedia page for spin,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin-%C2%BD, or other resources in the Science and Engineering Library.

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Re: Electron Spin Quantum Number

Postby Rachel Min » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:41 am

Thank you! This really helped!

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Re: Electron Spin Quantum Number

Postby Kaelie Blanes-Ronda 2L » Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:39 pm

The spin quantum numbers can only be 1/2 or -1/2.

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Re: Electron Spin Quantum Number

Postby Shreya Ramineni 2L » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:54 pm

the quantum spin number can haven either +/- 1/2.

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Re: Electron Spin Quantum Number

Postby mayasinha1B » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:42 pm

Electrons also fill each orbital in a subshell all with spin facing a certain direction (either +/- 1/2) before refilling the orbitals with the opposite spin.

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Re: Electron Spin Quantum Number

Postby Daniel Rivas 3L » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:23 pm

It can be either 1/2 or -1/2.

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Re: Electron Spin Quantum Number

Postby Adrian Lim 1G » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:53 am

To reiterate, the spin number is +1/2 and -1/2; however, we will not be able to determine which is which at certain times depending on how one draws the spin of the electrons in the orbitals.


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