Less than Angles

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Angela Cordova 3F
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Less than Angles

Postby Angela Cordova 3F » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:18 pm

In what circumstance will a bond angle be "less than" the known bond angles for certain molecular shapes? (E.g. less than 109.5 degrees)

Kayla Vo 1B
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Re: Less than Angles

Postby Kayla Vo 1B » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:34 pm

The bond angles depend on the existence of lone pairs because the lone pairs repel each other and other atoms in molecules. Bond angles decrease as the number of lone pairs increase. For example, in a tetrahedral shape, the bond angle would be 109.5 given that there are 4 atoms. If one of the atoms were replaced with a lone pair of electrons, the shape would become trigonal pyramidal and therefore the bond angle between the atoms would become less than 109.5 (~107) as a result of greater repulsion.

RachaelKoh3A
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Re: Less than Angles

Postby RachaelKoh3A » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:18 pm

Just to add on, lone pair-lone pair repulsion > lone pair-bond pair repulsion > bond pair-bond pair repulsion. In the tetrahedral example mentioned by Kayla, the bond angle between the atoms in a trigonal pyramidal shape becomes less than 109.5 because the lone pair-bond pair repulsion is greater than bond pair-bond pair repulsion. Hence, the atoms are forced closer together and the bond angle becomes slightly smaller.


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