Bond Angles

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Bond Angles

Postby JChen_2I » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:16 pm

Are we just supposed to memorize that a tetrahedral angle is 109.5 degrees and that trigonal planar angles are 107 degrees, etc? Or is there a way that these angles were calculated?

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby Jorge Ramirez_4H » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:32 pm

Do we actually need to memorize the bond angles or just what shape they make?

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby Audrie Chan-3B » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:25 pm

I think it would be helpful to memorize both bond angles and shape name for the test.

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby Michelle Le 1J » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:30 pm

I don't think there's any way to calculate it, so you might just have to memorize what bond angles go with each geometric shape. If you google online, there's plenty of vsepr geometry charts that are helpful!

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby Eva Zhao 4I » Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:56 pm

Like what others have said, it will probably be helpful to memorize the angles. As a side note, trigonal planar angles are 120 degrees. The 107 degrees was for, i.e. NH3, a molecule with 1 lone pair and 3 bonding pairs.

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby Kylie Lim 4G » Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:19 pm

I think that you should probably just memorize them since we haven't learned a way to calculate them. Trigonal planar is 120 though not 107.

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby AveryAgosto » Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:20 pm

I think memorizing them would be a good idea but he didn't specifically say we needed to memorize it.

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby preyasikumar_2L » Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:52 pm

You should just memorize the generic ones: linear=180 degrees, trigonal planar=120 degrees, tetrahedral=109.5 degrees, trigonal bipyramidal=90 and 120 degrees, and octahedral=90 degrees. However, you should also know that having lone pairs will cause the bond angles to be less than the basic amounts, like how in a bent molecule the angle would be <109.5 degrees, so on and so forth.

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby KnarGeghamyan1B » Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:59 pm

You don't need to memorize every possible exception, just know that in some cases like ammonia and water, the bond angles are slightly less than 109.5 because of the strength of the repulsion of the lone pairs.

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