bond angles less than <109.5

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Cavalli_1H
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bond angles less than <109.5

Postby Cavalli_1H » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:28 am

I realize that there are certain times when molecules form trigonal pyramidal shape the bond angle is <109.5, but can someone explain why? What makes this way and how do we know that it will be <109.5?

Sahil Jog 1F
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Re: bond angles less than <109.5

Postby Sahil Jog 1F » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:01 am

Even if a molecule with a trigonal pyramidal shape looks to be arranged tetrahedrally (bond angles=109.5), the lone electron pair has a greater electron repulsion strength than a bonded one, forcing the 3 bonded atoms closer to each other, and thus making their bond angles slightly less than 109.5.

AmyL_3L
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Re: bond angles less than <109.5

Postby AmyL_3L » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:15 am

The lone pair on the central atom has greater repulsion strength. Therefore, it pushes the three bonded atoms closer to each other, decreasing their bond angles to be less than 109.5.

Sofia Barker 2C
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Re: bond angles less than <109.5

Postby Sofia Barker 2C » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:17 pm

The bond angles of atoms within a molecule with a trigonal pyramidal shape are less than 109.5 degrees because the lone pair of electrons has greater electron repulsion, so the three bonding pairs are pushed closer together. Lone pairs have greater repulsion because they have a stronger negative charge and are closer to the central atom because, unlike bonding pairs, they are not being pulled away to be shared by another atom.

Erik Buetow 1F
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Re: bond angles less than <109.5

Postby Erik Buetow 1F » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:27 pm

If there is a lone pair, it pushes the other atoms closer together, making the bond angles slightly less than 109.5


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