Lone Pair E-

[Isis_DW_3G]

Do lone pair e- count as their own regions of e- density? or is it just the atom that's counted?
thank you!

[Gabby Magat 3F]

Yes, lone pair electrons are also regions of electron density! They have a much stronger force of repulsion than bonding pairs, but both are considered regions of electron density.

[Frankie Mele 3J]

Lone pairs are counted as regions of e- density just like atoms. However, they do act differently than bonding atoms because of their high repulsion force which changes the overall shape of the molecule.

[Xinying Wang_3C]

Hi, yes, lone pair electrons also count in electron density and will affect the shape of the molecules, but they don't count when naming the geometry of the molecule.

[Madisen Brown -1C]

Lone pair electrons are included in the region of electron density.

[Jaden Ward 3J]

Just like atoms are, lone pair electrons are also considered in the electron density. Their high repulsion force causes them to act slightly different, causing 2 electron pairs needing to be as far away from eachother as possible in a structure.

[DMaya_2G]

The lone pair electrons are also considered in the count of electron density, which that will affect the molecules shape. However, it doesn't count when figuring out the geometry of the molecule.

[Lorraine Jiang 2C]

I think one lone pair of e- is counted as one electron density. So for example, like H2O, on the oxygen atom, there are two lone pairs of e- and we say there are four electron density clouds, 2 bonding and 2 lone-pairs.

Hope it helps!

[Mary Shih 3J]

it counts as its own electron density because it region contains electrons. You only look at the elements when determine the basic shape

[Haochen He 3L]

Yes. One lone pair is considered as one region of electron density. Hope it helps :)

[Sejal Parsi 3K]

Yes, lone pair electrons do count and will affect the shape because of their strong repulsion.

[Nhu Pham-Dis3G]

Yes even though lone pair electrons are not bonded to anything else they also would be considered a region of electron density. They could also cause repulsion and influences the overall molecule.

[Mahika More 1H]

Yes, lone pairs are considered their own regions and they repel other regions strongly too. That is why when looking at the shape of molecules we have to consider lone pairs (because they repel the other bonds).

[Crystal Pan 2G]

Lone pairs count as e- density regions as well.

[Adam Bustamante 1I]

Yes, lone pairs of electrons count as regions of electron density!

[Jerry_T]

Yes, lone pair electrons are also regions of electron density. If they weren't then, molecular shape would be only determined by bonding electrons.

[Shruti Kulkarni 2I]

Yes, they do! Lone pair electrons count as another region of electron density. In fact, they often have a larger electron density than a bond!

[Claudia_Danysh_2B]

Lone pair electrons do count as their own area of electron density!

[Emma Strassner 1J]

Hi, we do count regions of electron density because they affect the shape of the molecule by repelling other regions.

[Reese_Gover2K]

Yes they do count as a region of electron density.

[Darren1j]

Why are lone pairs more "diffuse" or take up a larger space than bonding pairs do? Since they all are areas of electron density

[Justin Lin 1B]

Lone pairs do count as their own region of e- density

[Lea Chamoun 2J]

yes, lone pairs count as their own region of electron density. But when naming a shape, the regions of electron density in bonding are used.

[Jason_John_2F]

lone pairs do count as their own region of electron density

[David Y]

Yes a lone pair is considered a region of electron density

[Jason Knight - 1F]

Correct, a lone pair does count as its own region of electron density. Electron density counts for both lone pair electrons and bonding pairs.

[Sophia Kalanski 1A]

yes they count as their own separate region and have a stronger repulsion power than the rest of the regions. the powers go from lone pair to lone pair>lone pair to bonding pair>bonding pair to bonding pair. This will in turn also cause the angles between the other regions to be greater.

[Jared Limqueco 3E]

Just to reiterate for the 20th time, yes, e- pairs are counted. E- repulsion can influence shape.

[Marco Vivar 3G]

Yes they count and therefore, affect the angle of the geometric shape

[Alison Perkins 2B]

Yes, each lone pair counts as its own region of electron density.

[Joshua Swift]

Yes, bonds and lone pairs count as regions of electron density and contribute to the overall shape of the molecule.

[DavidTabib 3H]

Yes, they are also their own region of electron density.

[Lauren Mungo 1K]

yes, they are considered to have their own region of electron density and contribute to the shape

[AJForte-2C]

lone pair e- do count as their own regions of electron density, including when you are creating a VSPER model. In addition, e- are more repulsive compared to bound atoms, which in turn affects the bound angles of a molecule.

[jia207]

Lone pair e- count as their own regions of e- density.

[Melissa Solis 1H]

Like everyone else has said lone pair electrons do count in electron density as well as affecting the shape of the molecules themselves.

[Isabella Cortes 2H]

yes!! lone pairs do count as their own region of electron density so they affect the shape of the molecule.

[Gian Boco 2G]

Yep, thus affecting the shape of the molecule. Their repulsion is stronger than bonding pairs.

[Lorraine Medina 3E]

Yes, a lone pair counts as a region of electron density. Hope this helps!

[gabbi_r2C]

I agree with everyone above. Lone pairs are their own regions of electron density :)

[Jack_Pearce_2H]

They most definitely do! in terms of the magnitude of which molecular geometry is affected by other regions of electron density it goes as follows, LP-LP, LP-atom, atom-atom. Lone pairs are not shared and essentially belong to the atom which the LP is assigned, which is why affect vsper so much.

[105618850]

Yes they are considered electron regions. That is why they contribute greatly to bond angles and molecular structure; with their repulsion.

[Savannah Torella 1L]

Yes, lone pairs count as their own region of electron density. That is why the shape of a compound is dependent on both the number of outer atoms and the number of lone pairs.

[Karen Elrayes 1L]

Lone pairs have their own electrical density kind of like a bubble around them that causes repulsion

[Sean Phen]

Yes, Lone Pair electrons do count as an electron density region.

[Annie Tong 2G]

Lone pairs (and also radicals) have their own density. However, they only influence the shape of a molecule in electron geometry, not molecular geometry.

[joshtully]

Yes, lone pair electrons do count.

[Andy Hernandez]

Lone pair electrons do count as their own region of electron density