Bond angles

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SamanthaTolentino 3D
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Bond angles

Postby SamanthaTolentino 3D » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:57 pm

Do we have to know the bond angles for the different shapes for the final?

Megan Chan 3A
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Re: Bond angles

Postby Megan Chan 3A » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:01 pm

Yes! This is definitely something you should be familiar with.

Angelica Soriano 3L
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Re: Bond angles

Postby Angelica Soriano 3L » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:04 pm

Yes!! I'm pretty sure Dr. Lavelle emphasized them so we should have a general idea about the bond angles for every molecular shape.

LeanneBagood_2F
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Re: Bond angles

Postby LeanneBagood_2F » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:05 am

as others have already mentioned, yes, you should have at least a general idea of the bond angles of each structure. this includes knowing the values (90, 109.5, 120, 180) and whether the angle is the value itself or if it would be less than that value (<90, <109.5, <120, <180).

Sharon Kim 2A
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Re: Bond angles

Postby Sharon Kim 2A » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:10 am

Make sure that bond angles will be smaller because of lone pair repulsion for the more complicated structures. They won't be the standard 120, 109.5 angles.

Kayla Booker 1F
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Re: Bond angles

Postby Kayla Booker 1F » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:40 am

Yes, you should at least have a general idea, and sometimes after drawing out the 3D model you can figure out the bond angles.

Jiwon_Chae_3L
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Re: Bond angles

Postby Jiwon_Chae_3L » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:44 am

Yes, they will probably be on the test in some form or another. It always helps to draw out the 3D form of the molecule and I also think that the fact that the angles are not always exactly the theoretical value will also be tested.

claire ikemiya_2I
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Re: Bond angles

Postby claire ikemiya_2I » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:13 am

From the review sessions I went to, one example problem the TAs thought would be important to be able to do is draw a lewis structure, then describe IMF, and describe shape/bond angle. So, I think it we need to understand all aspects for the final. Online charts + book examples are really helpful.

Erika Sosa-Cruz 1J
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Re: Bond angles

Postby Erika Sosa-Cruz 1J » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:15 am

Yes you should know the bond angles for the final

Brian Acevedo 2E
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Re: Bond angles

Postby Brian Acevedo 2E » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:53 pm

I think as long as we are familiar with the more common bond angles (i.e. 90, 109.5, 120 etc. as well as the associated shapres we should be alright.

Jaden Joodi 3J
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Re: Bond angles

Postby Jaden Joodi 3J » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:14 pm

Yes, please make sure you know the bond angles. Here is a good reference image:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/62/14/b5 ... 4ee088.jpg

205323697
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Re: Bond angles

Postby 205323697 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:48 am

By how much would an angle go up or down if we added a lone pair?

America Ramirez 3H
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Re: Bond angles

Postby America Ramirez 3H » Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:11 am

205323697 wrote:By how much would an angle go up or down if we added a lone pair?

I think only slightly because the lone pair does have a slightly stronger repulsion factor than atoms.


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