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Pi Bonds

Postby Katryn Heine 3A » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:32 pm

Can a Pi bond only exist if a sigma bond exists first? I'm a little confused. Thank you!

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Sristi Palimar 2E » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:35 pm

Yes, I believe that is correct! A single bond would have one sigma bond, a double bond would have one sigma bond and one pi bond, and a triple bond would have one sigma bond and two pi bonds.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Bryan Cheng 1H » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:37 pm

Yes, pi bonds do not exist alone. Since there are three p orbitals in the x, y, and z axes, one set of p orbitals must overlap end-to-end (creating a sigma bond) for the other orbitals to get close enough to interact side-by-side (creating pi bond(s)). There will always be a sigma bond in the center, then pi bond(s) surrounding it.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Elaine Steinberg 3H » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:37 pm

Yes! Double bonds have one sigma bond and one pi bond, while triple bonds have one sigma bond and 2 pi bonds. This is because of the orientation of the orbitals in the bound atoms.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Julia Zahra » Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:47 pm

yes i believe so

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Kimia Rategh 2A » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:03 pm

Yes I believe that is correct. Pi bonds are formed when there is either a double or triple bond and since both those bonds are a combination of sigma and pi bonds, you could say that pi bonds can only exist if there is already a sigma bond.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Niyati 1F » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:04 pm

Yes, pi bonds only exist if there is a sigma bond present as well. They represent higher orbitals and so cannot exist without the lower orbital (sigma) bonds.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Ally Mosher » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:25 pm

Oh. This makes so much sense. I was confused on this too. Thank you.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Minoo Bastani 2J » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:33 pm

As the others said, pi bonds cannot exist on their own since they are a result of double or triple bonds. So the first bond in a double bond will be a sigma bond, then all the following bonds (second and third in the case of a triple bond) will be pi bonds.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Arjun_Anumula_3E » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:56 pm

That is correct, the lower energy hybrid orbitals will make sigma bond(s) first, and the remaining un-hybridized p orbitals can make higher energy pi bonds.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Elizabeth Kim 2K » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:30 pm

Hi! Yes; pi bonds cannot exist alone. A single bond has one sigma bond, a double bond has one sigma bond and one pi bond, and a triple bond has one sigma bond and two pi bonds. Hope this helps!

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Nayeli Valtierra 2F » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:58 pm

Hi,
Yes that is correct, pi bonds can only exist if there is a sigma bond.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Sabira Mohammed 3I » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:19 pm

Yes, I think so. You need at least one sigma bond to have a pi bond.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby SuryaDham 3E » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:20 pm

yes, there must be a sigma bond first for a pi bond to exist.

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Re: Pi Bonds  [ENDORSED]

Postby Chem_Mod » Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:42 am

There will never be a situation where you have a pi bond without a sigma bond.

Single bonds - one sigma bond
Double bonds - one sigma bond and one pi bond
Triple bonds - one sigma bond and two pi bonds

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Victoria Sigala 2A » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:03 pm

Correct! A pi bond only exists if a sigma bond is present.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Gianna Greco 1G » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:19 pm

Exactly! It is possible to have only a sigma bond and no pi bonds, but it is not possible to have only a pi bond without sigma bonds.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby ElizabethKarlin2E » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:43 am

Yep! Sigma bonds form first because they're stronger, pi bonds can only be the second and third bonds to form.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby AJackman » Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:00 pm

Yes! There must be a single (pi) bond for the sigma (double, triple) bond to bind to in the first place.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby 505706331 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:10 pm

yes, sigma bonds are always the first bond to form and pi bonds will be formed after this and the number of pi bonds would depend whether its a double or triple bond

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby 905701360 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:55 pm

Yes, you are correct!

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Genelle Marcelino-Searles 2G » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:09 pm

Yes, pi bonds can only exist with a sigma bond.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Madison Rhynhart 3H » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:10 pm

Yes! This is true because the sigma bond will always be the first bond in molecule thus a single bond is a sigma bond and then once you have a sigma bond you can make a double bond which would include one pi and one sigma bond.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Morgan Micallef 1A » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:02 am

So pi bonds only form when there are double and triple bonds forming?

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Mahima Manoj 1F » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:32 pm

I believe so because in a double or triple bond, there is always a sigma bond along with the pi bonds

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Ryan Lafferty 1L » Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:48 pm

Yes, pi bonds can only exist in double or triple bond (each of which contain sigma bonds as well).

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Trisha Badjatia 2L » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:54 am

Yes, because pi bonds are made by the overlap between leftover p-orbitals. Sigma bonds are in every bond, including single bonds, while pi bonds are only in multiple bonds (like double or triple bonds).

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Shannon Clark 1F » Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:57 am

Yes! All single bonds are sigma bonds, double bonds are one sigma bond and one pi bond, and triple bonds are one sigma bond and two pi bonds! Sigma bonds always comes first, and then the addition of pi bonds occurs after :)

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Nataly Antonova 1B » Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:17 pm

Exactly, a pi bond forms at a place where sigma bond has already formed, so it would be 2nd and 3d bond

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Vashe Sundar 3H » Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:28 pm

Yep! Pi bonds exist on top of a sigma bond. For example, a double bond between C--C both has a sigma and pi bond.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Madison Yee 2B » Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:51 pm

Yes, pi bonds must exist in addition to sigma bonds. Sigma bonds are often represented by single bonds. Double bonds consist of a sigma bond and a pi bond.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Mario Prado 1K » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:39 pm

Hello,

Yes a pi bond can only exist if a sigma bond is already present.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Madeline_Miller » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:40 pm

Yes! A sigma bond needs to be there for a pi bond to be present.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Polo Morales 3C » Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:55 pm

Yes, pi bonds form only after sigma bonds are formed between two atoms. The second bond in a double bond and third in a triple bond are pi bonds, while the first bond is a sigma bond.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Palig Kechichian 3F » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:17 pm

Yes! The first bond is always a sigma bond. If you have a double bond, then you would have a sigma bond and a PI bond

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Divya Mehta 2K » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:20 pm

Yes, pi bonds can only exist when there is a double of triple bond. If there is a double or triple bond, one bond is always a sigma and the remainder are pi bonds

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby 505807269 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:24 pm

Yes, there is a sigma bond first. Pi bonds are generated when there is a double or triple bond, and because both of those bonds are a combination of sigma and pi bonds, pi bonds can only exist if there is already a sigma bond.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby Zoe Apple 1F » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:29 pm

Yes, pi bonds exist with a sigma bond. They occur once in a double bond with one sigma bond and twice in a triple bond with one sigma bond.

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Re: Pi Bonds

Postby JafarriNocentelli 1G » Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:25 am

Yes this is correct because pi bonds can only exist with a sigma bond present


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