Using ido or o

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Using ido or o

Postby Faaizah Arshad 1H » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:14 am

In the textbook, anionic ligands were named as fluorido, chlorido, or bromido with the -ido at the end. However, in lecture and in the textbook answer key, the ide is completely dropped and replaced with o like chloro. When do you use -ido and when do you use -o?

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Sophia Hu 1A » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:17 am

I believe that using -ido is the IUPAC name convention and both are correct, but Dr. Lavelle said to drop the -ide and use -o.

If you reference his ligand names in coordination compounds sheet he shows both the name and IUPAC name, but he holds the name section which is what I believe he wants us to use.
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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Kiran Singh 3A » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:17 am

I believe either one is okay to use. In this class, I'm pretty sure that we will mostly be using -o (ex. chloro and cyano). Hope this helps.

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Lesly Lopez 3A » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:46 am

Hi!

They are both correct but in this class I think that we would be using -o much more than the other option.

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Kareena Patel 1G » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:47 am

For the tests, I would probably just use -o since that is what he focused on for his lecture.

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Andrew Wang 1C » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:51 am

Hi! In today's lecture, Lavelle told us it was fine to use either, but he used -o in his lectures. -ido is a new naming convention that not many people know about yet.

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Ria Nawathe 1C » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:54 am

Just a heads up, the textbook uses the -ido convention but the Sapling HW uses o!

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Josh Chou 3K » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:10 am

Yeah I had the same question a while ago, and Dr. Lavelle just answered it in the most recent lecture. I got the Sapling question wrong several times because I was using chlorido instead of chloro, so I think we're mostly going to be using chloro for this class

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Nick Saeedi 1I » Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:09 pm

-ido is the new IUPAC convention but it is not widely recognized yet so Dr. Lavelle said we can just use -o.

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Annika Tamaki 1E » Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:19 pm

He said that both are acceptable, but -o is more common and widely used in chemistry.

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Katie Nye 2F » Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:21 pm

He used -o in his lecture so to be safe, I'd say use -o because that's what he presented to us.

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby EnricoArambulo3H » Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:22 pm

The IUPAC uses -ido, rather than -o, but Dr. Lavelle uses -o since this version is used more in our future chemistry courses. I hope this helped!

Nicoli Peiris 1B
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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Nicoli Peiris 1B » Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:24 pm

You can use either but he said he uses the drop the ide and add o!

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Marley Magee 3A » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:04 pm

Like everyone else has basically been saying, I would stick to using -o since it's what Dr. Lavelle uses.

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Sam_Marasigan_3D » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:06 pm

You can use either one. However, since Dr. Lavelle emphasized dropping the -ide and adding -o, I would use this process instead.

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Lorraine Medina 3E » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:01 pm

Hi! Dr. Lavelle said that the textbook specifically uses -ido, and we are free to use either that or -o, but he will be using -o in class and for Sapling. Hope this helps!

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Nadya Higgins 3F » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:40 pm

The textbook uses the new naming convention. However, as Dr. Lavelle mentioned in the most recent lecture, either the new way or the more common (old) way is fine. I would just keep in mind that, for example, either saying chloro or chlorido is an option, and both work fine.

Akriti Ratti 1H
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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Akriti Ratti 1H » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:42 pm

I believe this was mentioned in today's lecture. -ido is the updated IUPAC ending, but we'll be using -o for our assignments.

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby SamanthaTolentino 3D » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:46 pm

Dr. Lavelle went over it during his lecture and said that both ways are acceptable. The textbook and sapling use -ido meanwhile he uses -o.

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Emerald Wong 1B » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:49 am

-ido is the IUPAC name convention, while -o is the older way. The older method is what we are using and learning now, but -ido is also accepted.

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Jordan Tatang 3L » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:02 am

Like the others said I believe you can use either one.

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Minh-Thy Vo 3D » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:02 pm

Like people said, you can use both. I think Dr. Lavelle uses the -o way, but both are acceptable.

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Ravdeep Warar 2G » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:12 pm

In the lecture, it was said that both are acceptable, but since Dr. Lavelle and our homework are using -o, I will stick to that.

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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Jerry_T » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:36 pm

In his lecture, Dr. Lavelle stated that either -ido (IUPAC) or -o (traditional) is acceptable.

Kayla Booker 1F
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Re: Using ido or o

Postby Kayla Booker 1F » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:38 pm

I believe that they are interchangeable and you can use either.


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