what does (en) mean?

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what does (en) mean?

Postby AnnaNovoselov1G » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:59 pm

Could someone please explain what the (en) means in Cd(en)Br2] ?

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Chem_Mod » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:02 pm

en is shorthand for ethylenediamine. It is a bidentate ligand with the formula NH2CH2CH2NH2.

dien is shorthand for diethylenetriamine. It is a tridentate ligand with the formula NH2CH2CH2NHCH2CH2NH2.

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Helena Hu 3E » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:03 pm

Is this something common that we will need to know going forward? I always get so confused when I see it come up.

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Stephen Min 1I » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:27 pm

I think we do need to memorize en since it is a common ligand that we will probably use going forward. Its also on the common ligand table.

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Jamie Wang 3C » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:48 am

Stephen Min 2K wrote:I think we do need to memorize en since it is a common ligand that we will probably use going forward. Its also on the common ligand table.

Where can we find the common ligand table used for this class?

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Navdha Sharma 3J » Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:26 am

en stands for ethylenediamine, which is a bidendate ligand.
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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Angel More » Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:08 am

I think it is helpful to know that en/ethylenediamine has no charge, it is neutral.

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby MCalcagnie_ 1D » Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:14 pm

Jamie Wang 3G wrote:
Stephen Min 2K wrote:I think we do need to memorize en since it is a common ligand that we will probably use going forward. Its also on the common ligand table.

Where can we find the common ligand table used for this class?

There is a link to a ligand table on Professor Lavelle's website by the periodic table link I believe.

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Claire_Kim_2F » Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:23 pm

https://lavelle.chem.ucla.edu/wp-conten ... pounds.pdf here is the link for anyone who needs it!

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Brandon Le 3C » Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:35 pm

en (ethylenediamine H2NCH2CH2NH2) is a bidenate. So it has two donor atoms, and therefore contributes two to the coordination number as a complex.

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Haochen He 3L » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:15 am

Hi! en is shorthand for ethylenediamine. The formula of this ligand is NH2CH2CH2NH2. Hope it helps.

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Lucy_Balish_3G » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:04 am

en stands for ethylenediamine, is a bidentate ligand (involves 2 electron pairs), is a neutral molecule, and has the molecular formula NH2CH2CH2NH2.

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Sophia Wendin 3L » Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:35 am

Claire_Kim_2F wrote:https://lavelle.chem.ucla.edu/wp-content/supporting-files/Chem14A/NamingCoordinationCompounds.pdf here is the link for anyone who needs it!

Thank you!

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby simona_krasnegor_1C » Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:40 am

I saw this in the sapling homework! (en) is an abbreviation for a compound, commonly called ethylenediamine. It's a bidentate ligand and its formula is NH2CH2CH2NH2! Hope this helps!

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Hailey Qasawadish 2J » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:09 pm

Adding on to what everyone said above, there are some really helpful tables in the textbook under the 9C section that outline common ligands! They're really helpful when trying to memorize all of the different ones. But, as others have said, en is a bidentate ligand that is short for ethylenediamine!

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Mingzi Yang 1E » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:39 pm

In one of the sapling homework problems (question 5 for me), the feedback includes a table (chempendix) of ligands. You can check it out to see some common ligand names and their denticity.

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby David Liu 1E » Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:40 am

do you guys know if we'll need to know this by memory for this class/series? wondering if it's something I should look at before the exam in case it shows up

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Violet Kwan 3H » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:39 am

(en) stands for ethylenediamine. It is one of the neutral ligands that we will have to know for the class. Someone earlier posted a link to the worksheet showing all the ligands we should be familiar with, so you should look over that as well :)

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Jonathan Banh 1G » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:38 am

In , (en) is meant to represent ethylenediamine, a bidentate ligand with the molecular formula . Just for future reference, you can always look at the ligand table in Sapling's Chempendix or the one on Professor Lavelle's website if you need help as well.

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Yolanda_Xing_3A » Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:07 am

it means ethylenediamine. Basically it can form a double bond and so you would double the coordination number. But I don't how would it affect the oxidation state. Anyone know?

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby emilyyribarren1k » Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:28 am

Will we need to have this memorized? Also does anyone know if we can use the common ligand table on the final or if this type of information will be given to us in the question?

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Eliana Witham 2H » Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:31 am

emilyyribarren1k wrote:Will we need to have this memorized? Also does anyone know if we can use the common ligand table on the final or if this type of information will be given to us in the question?


I know that the final is closed book, so I'm preparing to only get a periodic table and formula sheet.

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby Chudi Onyedika 3A » Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:19 pm

It is just an abbreviation for ethylenediamine

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Re: what does (en) mean?

Postby LovepreetSran_3H » Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:22 pm

En stands for ethylenediamine.


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