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[Co(NH3)4Cl2]Cl :
Does anyone know how to arrange the ligands in alphabetical order here? Is it based on tetra and di or is it based on ammine and chloro?
Does anyone know how to arrange the ligands in alphabetical order here? Is it based on tetra and di or is it based on ammine and chloro?
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Hi!
For naming the compound, you arrange the ligand in alphabetical order based on the name, not the prefix. For example, tetraammine would come before dichloro because the A in ammine comes before the C in chloro.
If they give you the name and you have to write out the formula, make sure to write it in alphabetical order based on the chemical symbol as well. That's why the Cl2 comes before the NH3 (because the C is before the N).
Hope this helps!
For naming the compound, you arrange the ligand in alphabetical order based on the name, not the prefix. For example, tetraammine would come before dichloro because the A in ammine comes before the C in chloro.
If they give you the name and you have to write out the formula, make sure to write it in alphabetical order based on the chemical symbol as well. That's why the Cl2 comes before the NH3 (because the C is before the N).
Hope this helps!
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When arranging ligands in alphabetical order, you always use the ligand name without the prefix.
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Hi, naming the compounds like that follows alphabetical order without the prefixes included. You only add in the prefixes after you have determined the order of the ligand names themselves.
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Maddie Turk Disc 2C wrote:So why would this be cobaltate and not cobalt at the end
Hi! This would actually just be cobalt at the end instead of cobaltate. You only add the -ate at the end of the metal if the net charge of the complex is negative. Also, don't forget to add the oxidation number in parenthesis after the metal! Hope this helps!
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In regards to putting things in alphabetical order, first do that for name of each atom or molecular compound, then add prefixes.
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^^ You alphabetize the ligands based on the ligand itself rather than the prefix! Add the prefix after :DD
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Hi, when naming a compound you ignore the prefixes and base the alphabetical order off of the actual name of the ligand. So in this case you would only consider the first letter in ammine and chloro.
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When naming compounds, you do not consider the prefixes. Therefore, you would only look at ammine and chloro when alphabetizing the name.
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Hi! The ligands are named in alphabetical order, which doesn't include the prefix but the actual ligand name.
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Yes! First you should find out what the name for each ligand is without the greek prefix. In this case your ligands are NH3 (ammine) and Cl (chloro), so you'd order them -ammine-chloro. Now you can add in your greek prefixes to get tetraamminedichloro. Last you add in the transition metal, oxidation state, and cation(in front of the compound)/anion(behind the compound).
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The ligand's "other name" will take priority in ordering the compounds in alphabetical order. Hope this helps!
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Hi! As stated above, you apply alphabetical order to the name of the ligands (ammine, chloro), and then simply add the respective prefixes after (tetra, di).
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I had trouble on this too! It took me a few tries to get sapling #1 right on this weeks homework. Turns out i forgot the 3 at the end. This thread really helped me understand more!
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Was anyone else confused about this thread? for me, the first sapling question was a different formula.
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You don't alphabetize by the prefix, you do it by the ligand. Then you add the prefix.
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hi! use the original name first, the prefix is irrelevant for the alphabetical naming order.
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Use the actual name of the compound first (e.g. ammine) and disregard the prefixes when naming them!!
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Hi Jessica! When naming coordination compounds, you put the ligands in alphabetical order from their names and not the Greek prefixes so you would put ammine then chlorine. Hope this helps!
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Hi! Just to clarify, do we never use a Greek prefix for the anion at the end? The solution said that as long as the Roman numeral (III) was included after cobalt the anion would just be called chloride instead of trichloride.
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Just to clarify in one post because I was kind of confused by this thread:
You have 2 ligands ( ammine and chloro).
You alphabatize them before adding prefixes so that would be aminechloro at this step
Then you add the prefixes so tetraaminedichloro
Next, you add the metal and its oxidation state to the end (tetraaminedichloro cobalt (III)
Lastly you add the anion
This gives you a final solution of:
tetraaminedichloro cobalt (III) chloride.
You have 2 ligands ( ammine and chloro).
You alphabatize them before adding prefixes so that would be aminechloro at this step
Then you add the prefixes so tetraaminedichloro
Next, you add the metal and its oxidation state to the end (tetraaminedichloro cobalt (III)
Lastly you add the anion
This gives you a final solution of:
tetraaminedichloro cobalt (III) chloride.
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naming is based on the literal name of the compounds so because ammine is A and Chloride is C, ammine comes first, then chloride
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Hey just to clarify, the final answer is tetraamminedichloro cobalt (III) chloride. I spelled the ammine part wrong and it said it was wrong three times, I was so confused why.
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Although you'll have greek prefixes in front of ammine or chloro, it is based on the name of the ligand. So...you'd organize them prefix-ammine, prefix-chloro
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