When we are naming the coordination complexes, when do we know to use ferrate or iron(ate) for the naming of the metal?
I know ironate looks weird, but I saw it on a practice problem with a UA.
I'd really appreciate it if someone could explain this to me!
Ferrate or iron?
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Re: Ferrate or iron?
I think it's a nomenclature to use the Latin name(Ferrate) when naming a coordination compound.
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how do you know which compounds are named with latin nomenclature and which ones are not.
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I believe that it is called ferrate instead of something else because it has a +2 charge therefore it will end in -ate. I believe it is not called ironate due to it being defined, i.e. something we should memorize.
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Ferrate was used at least by my TA when dealing with Iron. It is because it's the latin "ferra" and then the "-ate" at the end of the ion. I don't think it matters, but since -ferr was being used by my TA (and the UA in your case) I am assuming that is what is recommended.
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My TA gave us some examples of when to use the Latin name for transition metals: Fe (ferrate), Cu (cuprate), Au (aurate). Looks like there's maybe a pattern here to use the Latin name when the atomic symbol isn't an exact abbreviation of its name?
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Also, I think if the compound has an overall negative charge you add -ate to the end of the metal name. So this might play into the "ferrate" name.
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Jayden_Yamasaki_2J wrote:Also, I think if the compound has an overall negative charge you add -ate to the end of the metal name. So this might play into the "ferrate" name.
Yeah I was actually wondering if ferrate would change if there is an overall positive charge or if it is called ferrate regardless of charge?
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