"ate" and "ic"

[Mackenzie Fernandez 3G]

hi!

I am having trouble finding notes for when to place "ate" and "ic" at the end of names. When do we use these??

thank you!

[Anirudh Mahadev 1G]

Hi, I'm not sure where to use "ate", but "ic" is used to name an acid with an "ate" compound. For example, the acid of nitrate is nitric acid and the acid of chlorate is chloric acid.

[Mikayla Kwok 3K]

Just to add to what Anirudh said, I believe an acid with the name "hydro___ic acid" has no oxygen atoms, while an acid with the name "___ic acid" is an oxyacid and has oxygen atoms.

[Jade_Tai_2L]

Lavelle mentioned in his lecture that you use "-ate" with the metal name when the complex has a negative charge. So for example: [Ni(CN)4)] 2- : the name would be tetra cyano nickelATE (II)

[Sophia Spungin 2E]

Not sure if you are referring to naming coordination compounds, but here are the rules for using ate in these compounds:

I believe that you use 'ate-' on the metal when the entire coordination compound has a negative charge. For example

[Co(CN)₂(OH₂)]^2- has an overall charge of negative 2, so in the naming you would use cobaltate.

the full name would then be aquapentacyanocobaltate(III) ion