Bis, Tris, Tetrakis

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David Jen 1J
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Bis, Tris, Tetrakis

Postby David Jen 1J » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:34 pm

If a molecule has the prefix bis, tris, tetrakis, etc, would that prefix be counted when looking to name the coordination compound? I'm asking because, for question 9c.3, part d named the compound: sodium bisoxalato(diaqua)ferrate(III), when if following the rules, aqua would be first instead of oxalato. Is there a rule I missed?

Eva Becker
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Re: Bis, Tris, Tetrakis

Postby Eva Becker » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:41 pm

Looks like an error in the textbook; the name of the molecule (i.e. aqua) determines the (alphabetical) order in the nomenclature of the coordinate compound. The correct name should list diaqua before bisoxalato.

Chanel Mao 3D
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Re: Bis, Tris, Tetrakis

Postby Chanel Mao 3D » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:43 pm

Hi!
I think that might just be a mistake, because even if we were to take into account the bis, tris, tetras, etc. prefixes (which I'm pretty sure we don't), diaqua would still be placed before bisoxalato because of the a in aqua.

Maddie Turk Disc 2J
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Re: Bis, Tris, Tetrakis

Postby Maddie Turk Disc 2J » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:40 pm

These are only used when there is already a bi, tri, or tetra right?

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Re: Bis, Tris, Tetrakis

Postby Javier Perez M 1H » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:56 pm

bis, tris, etc is generally used to name molecules or atoms with more than one bond. It seems the mono-, di- prefixes (which indicates how many atoms or molecules are present) is canceled out when dealing with these complex bonds.


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