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Nina Fukui 2J
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"ferrate"

Postby Nina Fukui 2J » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:11 pm

Is it just supposed to be known that Fe or Iron is spelled out as ferrate in coordination compounds or is there a condition for it??

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Re: "ferrate"

Postby Arnav Saud 2C » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:13 pm

I'm pretty sure its ferrate only for coordination compounds.

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Re: "ferrate"

Postby SophiaBarden 2E » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:14 pm

Lavelle said we should be able to recognize the ligand names and nomenclature. Iron involve in coordination compounds are always Ferrate, but in normal compounds, they are normally just iron.

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Re: "ferrate"

Postby Jasmine Ho 3I » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:37 pm

I believe ferrate is only used when the coordination compound has an overall negative charge; otherwise you can just use iron. I also didn't know about this until I did the textbook problems so I'm not sure if this will show up on the exam. And from what I know, there are a few other similar exceptions I'm not really sure of.

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Re: "ferrate"

Postby Irene Nguyen 2J » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:15 am

Ferrate is used in coordination compounds when the overall charge is negative. For example, [Fe(CN)6]^4- has a negative charge of 4 and therefore will be written as an hexacyanidoferrate (II) ion. [Fe(NCS)(OHz)5]^2+ is positively charged and is written as an pentaaquathiocyanatoiron (III) ion. Basically, positive and neutral compounds have the metal atom written as itself and negative compounds have the metal atom written with an -ate at the end.

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Re: "ferrate"

Postby Kathy_Li_1H » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:42 am

Hi! Ferrate is only used when everything in the square brackets has a negative charge, in which normally you would just add an "-ate" to the end; however, for iron, the name is "ferrate" rather than "ironate."

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Re: "ferrate"

Postby Michelle Magana 2B » Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:56 am

"Ferrate" is used if the iron in the coordination compound has an overall negative charge, hope this helps!

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Re: "ferrate"

Postby Justin Zhang_1A » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:36 pm

Ferrate would only be used in a coordination compound with iron if the overall compound has a negative charge.

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Re: "ferrate"

Postby Chudi Onyedika 3A » Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:37 pm

It is the name for iron if its compound has a negative charge.

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Re: "ferrate"

Postby Jacob Kirkosian 3C » Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:31 pm

Ferrate is used when the coordination compound contains iron and when the compound is an anion. These conditions make the naming of the coordination compound in Latin and with the “-ate” suffix.

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Re: "ferrate"

Postby Elizabeth Kim 2K » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:25 pm

Hi! "Ferrate" would be used when a coordination compound containing iron is an anion. Hope this helps!

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Re: "ferrate"

Postby Mason_Hoppe_1A » Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:29 pm

If ferrate is merely an exception to the rule of adding -ate to the end of the element name when writing anions (i.e. ferrate as opposed to ironate), are there other important exceptions like this one that we will need to know?

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Re: "ferrate"

Postby Emily Widjaja 3A » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:17 pm

Only add "ate" if the transition metal complex has an overall negative charge. so if a transition metal complex involving iron is neutral or positive, it would just be iron (oxidation state), not ferrate


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