K[Cu(en)2 (CN)2 ]

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K[Cu(en)2 (CN)2 ]

Postby luludaly2B » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:28 pm

Why would K[Cu(en)2(CN)2] end in cuprate (I) and not cuprate (II)?

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Re: K[Cu(en)2 (CN)2 ]

Postby tamara masri_3D » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:30 pm

This would have to do with it being bonded to the K+, which "cancels out" the second negative charge from the CN-

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Re: K[Cu(en)2 (CN)2 ]

Postby Jasmine Ho 3I » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:33 pm

You can look at this entire compound as an ionic compound, where K+ is the cation and the coordination compound is the anion. Since the whole compound is neutral, the coordination compound must have a charge of -1. So, since each CN has a charge of -1, Cu has a charge of +1.

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Re: K[Cu(en)2 (CN)2 ]

Postby Helena Xu 3L » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:35 pm

K has a +1 charge, which makes the coordination compound have a -1 charge. CN has a -1 charge and en is neutral, and since there are 2 CN, the charge would be -2. Everything in the brackets should add up to the total charge, which is -1, so Cu would have a charge of +1. Hope this helps!

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Re: K[Cu(en)2 (CN)2 ]

Postby Irene Nguyen 2J » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:08 am

K[Cu(en)2(CN)2] as a neutral compound would have an overall charge of 0. Because K has a charge of +1, then the coordination compound in the brackets would have a charge of -1 that cancels out with K. In the brackets (en)2 is neutral, while (CN)2 has a charge of -2; meaning Cu needs to be +1 for the compound to be -1.

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Re: K[Cu(en)2 (CN)2 ]

Postby jessicasilverstein1F » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:20 am

each Cn has a negative one charge for a total of negative two, K has one positive charge. Therefore for the overall compound to be nuetral it should be Cu(I)

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Re: K[Cu(en)2 (CN)2 ]

Postby Nancy Yao » Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:55 am

K has a positive charge of 1 and en is neutral, CN has a negative charge of 1 and there are two of them, so Cu has to be +1

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Re: K[Cu(en)2 (CN)2 ]

Postby Jose Miguel Conste 3H » Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm

Because it's bonded with a K+, the necessary Cu charge for it to be a non charged compound is Cu(I)


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