Adding "ate"

Moderators: Chem_Mod, Chem_Admin

Samuel Mushinski 2G
Posts: 106
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:21 am

Adding "ate"

Postby Samuel Mushinski 2G » Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:48 pm

When naming coordination compounds, when do you add "ate" to the compound name.

Benjamin Nguyen 1J
Posts: 102
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:39 am
Been upvoted: 1 time

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Benjamin Nguyen 1J » Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:52 pm

When the coordination compound has a negative charge. For example, [Co(Cl)6]3- has a -3 overall charge so its name is hexachloro cobaltate (iii)

Lily Dabrowski 2G
Posts: 51
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:56 am
Been upvoted: 1 time

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Lily Dabrowski 2G » Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:56 pm

If the coordination compound has a negative charge, you would add -ate to the end of the metal name within the coordination sphere. Example: [Ni(CN)4]^2- has a negative charge; nickel is the metal, so the name would be Tetracyano nickelate(II)

Molly Smith 1J
Posts: 103
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:19 am
Been upvoted: 1 time

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Molly Smith 1J » Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:23 pm

You add -ate if the coordination compound has an overall negative charge.

Jack Amos 2I
Posts: 106
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:31 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Jack Amos 2I » Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:51 pm

Another good pointer to remember is that when you have a coordination complex anion and you use the "-ate" suffix, the Latin root of the element must be used. For example, -ironate would be incorrect because we are told to use the Latin root of elements.

Another example of this would be: -cuprate for copper, not copperate

Connor_Olsen_2K
Posts: 100
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:12 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Connor_Olsen_2K » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:53 pm

You add it to the metal of an anion.

Ashley Wilson 2L
Posts: 104
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:24 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Ashley Wilson 2L » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:59 pm

Add an -ate to the end of the metal when the overall coordination compound is an anion, meaning it is negatively charged. For example, [Ni(CN)4]^2- is named tetracyanonickelate (II).

Joan Moci 1J
Posts: 111
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:49 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Joan Moci 1J » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:48 pm

If the coordination compound is an anion (has an overall negative charge), then you add ate to the end on the name of the metal, ie nickel --> nickelate.

Esther Kim
Posts: 99
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:07 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Esther Kim » Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:44 pm

When the compound has a negatvie charge

Emily Hou 1H
Posts: 101
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:29 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Emily Hou 1H » Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:47 pm

-ate is added after the transition metal when the coordination compound (everything inside the brackets) has a negative charge.

Valerie M Dis 2E
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:40 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Valerie M Dis 2E » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:00 pm

You add -ate if the coordination compound as an overall negative charge

Claudia Longo 2J
Posts: 55
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:40 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Claudia Longo 2J » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:16 pm

Samuel Mushinski 2G wrote:When naming coordination compounds, when do you add "ate" to the compound name.

The -ate suffix is added to the cation in the coordination compound if it has an overall negative charge.

Joshua Lee 3C
Posts: 103
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:49 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Joshua Lee 3C » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:52 pm

You would add the suffix "ate" to the name of the metal atom if the coordination compound has an overall negative charge.

Kavya Anand 2B
Posts: 101
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:25 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Kavya Anand 2B » Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:10 am

Hi,
You add “ate” to the end of the metal in the coordination sphere when the coordination sphere has a overall negative charge.

Nicole 3G
Posts: 55
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:01 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Nicole 3G » Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:28 am

Hello,

"-ate" is added when the complex itself has a negative charge. This works for both when you have a full compound and just the complex.

Shriya_Amara_1G
Posts: 100
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:28 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Shriya_Amara_1G » Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:32 am

It is added to the transition metal anion when the complex has a negative charge.

Ellen Brock 2I
Posts: 100
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:34 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Ellen Brock 2I » Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:39 am

It is added when a complex has an overall negative charge and you will attach it to the transition metal. I also read that the -ate ending indicates a high oxidation state which makes sense based on how we are supposed to write it

eve444
Posts: 104
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:41 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby eve444 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:31 pm

hi, the suffix -ate is usually added to the transition-metal name if the coordination compound has an overall negative charge

505734174
Posts: 105
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:06 am
Been upvoted: 2 times

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby 505734174 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:32 pm

hello! you add -ate when the entire ion is negatively charged

jordancha3I
Posts: 52
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:45 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby jordancha3I » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:36 pm

You would add "ate" only if the overall charge of the coordination combination is negative.

KiaraTenorio_14B
Posts: 102
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:38 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby KiaraTenorio_14B » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:42 pm

You add the -ate to the end of metal name if complex has negative charge.

Jessica Cornelia Hongarta 1G
Posts: 114
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:49 am

Re: Adding "ate"

Postby Jessica Cornelia Hongarta 1G » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:44 pm

I believe you would add the "ate" to the name of the central metal atom of the complex ion if the complex ion has an overall negative charge or in other words, your complex ion is an anion.


Return to “Naming”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests