Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral [ENDORSED]
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Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
Hello! In lecture, Dr. Lavelle explained that with coordination compounds the 3 main shapes we will see are octahedral, tetrahedral, and square planar. I was just wondering how we are supposed to tell the difference between square planar and tetrahedral since both have them have 4 surrounding ligands.
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
Octahedral involves 6 bonded atoms attached to the central atom (AX6).
Tetrahedral involves 4 bonded atoms attached to the central atom (AX4).
Square Planar involves 4 bonded atoms and 2 lone pairs attached to the central atom (AX4E2).
While both tetrahedral and square planar have 4 bonded atoms, square planar also has 2 lone pairs attached to the central atom, this causes the change in shape.
A represents the central atom, X represents the bonded atoms, and E represents the lone pairs in the formulas above.
The first image is square planar and the second image is tetrahedral:
Tetrahedral involves 4 bonded atoms attached to the central atom (AX4).
Square Planar involves 4 bonded atoms and 2 lone pairs attached to the central atom (AX4E2).
While both tetrahedral and square planar have 4 bonded atoms, square planar also has 2 lone pairs attached to the central atom, this causes the change in shape.
A represents the central atom, X represents the bonded atoms, and E represents the lone pairs in the formulas above.
The first image is square planar and the second image is tetrahedral:
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
In addition to the person above, Professor Lavelle said we will not need to distinguish between square planar and tetrahedral shapes for coordination compounds. If there are 6 bonds, the shape is octahedral, and if there are 4 bonds, the shape can be either square planar or tetrahedral.
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
I believe you don't have to know which one when looking at coordination compounds with a coordination number of 4, but you may want to remember some of the biological examples like the heme complex that is a square planar.
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
As said before, we just need to know that four is either tetrahedral or square planar, but no need to distinguish between them.
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
At least for 14A, we wouldn't have to determine if the coordination compound is square planar or tetrahedral.
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
Hi!
A square planar complex has four bonded atoms and 2 electron pairs. A tetrahedral complex only has four atoms bonded to it (no electron pairs). You can distinguish by drawing out the molecule's lewis structure and seeing if the central atom has lone pairs or not. Hope this helps :)
A square planar complex has four bonded atoms and 2 electron pairs. A tetrahedral complex only has four atoms bonded to it (no electron pairs). You can distinguish by drawing out the molecule's lewis structure and seeing if the central atom has lone pairs or not. Hope this helps :)
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
Tetrahedral shapes are AX4, so there are only 4 bonded atoms while square planar is AX4E2, so it has 2 more lone pairs.
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
the square planer is much rarer than tetrahedral shaped molecules. The square planer needs 4 bonding atoms and 2 lone pairs, while tetrahedral just needs 4 bonding atoms.
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
This was a nice review for me of molecular shapes! Tetrahedral is when there are 4 bonding e- pairs bonded to the central atom, while square planar is when there are 6 regions of e- density around the central atom but 4 are bonding e- pairs and 2 are lone e- pairs!
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
I think the difference between tetrahedral and square planar is related to their hybridization configurations. Additionally, I think that a square planar configuration is in one plane whereas tetrahedral is in multiple planes. The square planar also has 2 lone pair vs tetrahedral has no lone pairs
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
Both involve bonding to 4 ligands, square planar has an additional 2 lone pairs while tetrahedral had 0
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
In terms of coordination compounds, we wont learn how to tell the difference between square planar and tetrahedral until other quarters of chem, but for VSEPR the difference is that square planar has two extra sets of lone pairs in addition to the 4 bonded atoms.
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
Tetrahedral has 4 bonds to atoms, and no lone pairs (AX4). Square planar has 4 bonds to atoms, and 2 lone pairs(AX4E2).
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
The only difference is that square planar has two lone pairs and tetrahedral molecules do not!
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
Through the use of a Lewis Structure you are able to see that a tetrahedral complex has four atoms bonded to it without any electron pairs. On the other hand, a square planar complex has four atoms bonded to it and 2 electron pairs.
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
The difference between Square Planar and Tetrahedral is that Square Planar has 6 regions of electron density with 2 lone pairs were as tetrahedral only has 4 regions of electron density.
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral
Hello! So you will be able to distinguish between tetrahedral and square planar. Square planar has 4 bonding regions and 2 lone pairs while tetrahedral has 4 bonding regions only. Overall you need to determine if there are lone pairs on the central atom and this will give you your shape. Hope this helps.
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Re: Square Planar vs. Tetrahedral [ENDORSED]
Hi!
Square planar has 2 sets of lone pairs which means that square planar has 6 areas of electron density. On the other hand, tetrahedral has 0 sets of lone pairs and has 4 areas of electron density.
Square planar has 2 sets of lone pairs which means that square planar has 6 areas of electron density. On the other hand, tetrahedral has 0 sets of lone pairs and has 4 areas of electron density.
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