Bond Angles

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Bond Angles

Postby kristinalaudis3e » Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:59 pm

For a lewis structure with 3 bonds and one lone pair have a bond angle closer to 106 (from lecture) or will it have a bond angle that is just less than that of a tetrahedral (109.5)?

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby 705383815 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:02 pm

I think the exact number depends on the properties of the compound, but in general, the number is less than 109.5º

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby Edward Tang 1k » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:05 pm

What I learned in ap chem in hs is that each lone pair reduces the bond angle by 2.5. So one lone pair in tetrahedral would make the bond go from 109.5 to 107, which is p close to 106.

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby Kelly Tran 1J » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:10 pm

The bond angle would be less than 109.5 due to the tetrahedral arrangement. The exact value of the bond angles depends on the atoms being bonded.

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby John_Tran_3J » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:12 pm

You should take into account that lone pairs can cause bond angles to decrease.

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby Ruth Rosales 3D » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:19 pm

I normally say it is 106 because I figure that it is safer to use what they give us in class, however, I do see how this value could be affected by the properties of the compound as other people have said.

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby Jerry_T » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:51 pm

The bond angle for AX3E depends on the molecule specifically but they are always less than 109.5 due to electron repulsion from the lone pair.

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby SamayaJoshi1A » Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:22 pm

For bond angles, I know some is a little less than a number, for example <109.5, does anyone know why?

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby Aria Movassaghi 1A » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:38 am

the bond angle is less than 109.5

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby JohnathanH_1H » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:05 pm

Since the molecule is tetrahedral the bond angles will be less than 109.5 degrees, the exact degrees varies due to which elements are involved.

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby Isabella Perez Dis3L » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:10 pm

it will have a bond angle that is just less than 109.5

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby 705573518 » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:11 pm

When we know a bond angle is for example <109.5, do we need to specify how much smaller or is <109.5 a sufficient answer?

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Re: Bond Angles

Postby Hailey Jeon » Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:25 pm

It will be less than 109.5 degrees since the electron density of lone pairs are higher than of the bonds.


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