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Tanvi Akula 2K
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denticity

Postby Tanvi Akula 2K » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:13 pm

Why is the oxalate ion bidentate? It has 4 Oxygens with lone pairs, so wouldn't it have 4 binding sites?

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Re: denticity

Postby 505771920 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:04 pm

I think that because of it's shape it would be impossible for all four oxygens to bind to the same metal. Only two would be able to bind to the same metal molecule.

Charlie Gravereaux
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Re: denticity

Postby Charlie Gravereaux » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:50 am

If you draw out the lewis structure of the oxalate ion, you find that there is resonance with two of the oxygen carbon bonds being double bonded. This means that that bond is rigid and could not form more than two bonds with the central atom (only where there are single C-O bonds). This means the molecular geometry of oxalate inhibits it being tetra dentate.

Gavin Trent 2F
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Re: denticity

Postby Gavin Trent 2F » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:23 pm

There must be at least two atoms between the first atom with a lone pair and the second atom with a lone pair, so that the geometry allows for both sites to bind.

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Re: denticity

Postby Adithi Ayyala 2G » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:10 pm

Hi!
For the oxalate ion because the oxygens are double-bonded, there is no rotating of the bonds as there would be with single bonds. As a result, because of this rigid shape, only two oxygens can bond to one transition metal, making the ion bidentate.
Hope this helps!

Desiree Eshraghi 3A
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Re: denticity

Postby Desiree Eshraghi 3A » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:45 pm

Shape and structure is another thing to think about when considering these hypotheticals,


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