Not Including Solids and Liquids

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Sophia Manos 1F
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Not Including Solids and Liquids

Postby Sophia Manos 1F » Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:32 pm

Why are solids and liquids not included in K calculations?

Samuel Mushinski 2G
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Re: Not Including Solids and Liquids

Postby Samuel Mushinski 2G » Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:34 pm

Because they cannot have concentrations!

Edriana J Altea 2G
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Re: Not Including Solids and Liquids

Postby Edriana J Altea 2G » Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:38 pm

I agree with the statement above, they don't have concentrations and also their concentrations stay constant during the entire reaction.

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Re: Not Including Solids and Liquids

Postby 005532550 » Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:43 pm

Solids and liquids don't really have concentrations so they arent considered in equilibrium. The surface area is relevant for how fast it reacts but for equilibrium it doesnt matter.

Kainath Kamil Dis 2K
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Re: Not Including Solids and Liquids

Postby Kainath Kamil Dis 2K » Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:07 pm

they can't be compressed or expanded so their concentration is the same throughout

Parinita Jithendra 2A
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Re: Not Including Solids and Liquids

Postby Parinita Jithendra 2A » Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:35 am

the reason they are not included is because the concentrations do not change during a reaction. They are constant throughout the reaction.

Tylina Guo 1K
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Re: Not Including Solids and Liquids

Postby Tylina Guo 1K » Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:47 am

This is because not only do they not have concentrations in the same way gasses and aqueous solutions do, but the amounts stay constant through the reaction.

Palig Kechichian 3F
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Re: Not Including Solids and Liquids

Postby Palig Kechichian 3F » Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:25 pm

They're not included in K calculations because solids and liquids don't have concentrations

Anisa Morales 1L
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Re: Not Including Solids and Liquids

Postby Anisa Morales 1L » Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:26 pm

As other have mentioned, they cannot be included because they don't have concentration like gas.

Ellen Brock 2I
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Re: Not Including Solids and Liquids

Postby Ellen Brock 2I » Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:00 pm

They essentially have constant concentrations because they are unable to be compressed or expanded. This is why we do not consider them in the K equations since they do not change!

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Re: Not Including Solids and Liquids

Postby Lynne Xu 3K » Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:01 pm

Solids and liquids are pure substances and don't have concentrations.

taline krumian 1L
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Re: Not Including Solids and Liquids

Postby taline krumian 1L » Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:31 am

Solids and liquids are not included in K calculations because their effective concentrations stay constant throughout the reaction.

Yu_Jia_Xu_2I
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Re: Not Including Solids and Liquids

Postby Yu_Jia_Xu_2I » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:09 pm

Solids and liquids are not included in K expressions because molar concentrations of a pure substance (solid or liquid) does not change in a reaction.

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Re: Not Including Solids and Liquids

Postby SanthoshNandakumar3L » Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:52 pm

Sophia Manos 1F wrote:Why are solids and liquids not included in K calculations?

I had a follow up question to this question. If liquids are not included in K calculations, why do we include products/reactants that have (aq) because I thought (aq) is supposed to represent a liquid phase solution?

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Re: Not Including Solids and Liquids

Postby Anahi C 2F » Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:14 pm

SanthoshNandakumar3L wrote:
Sophia Manos 1F wrote:Why are solids and liquids not included in K calculations?

I had a follow up question to this question. If liquids are not included in K calculations, why do we include products/reactants that have (aq) because I thought (aq) is supposed to represent a liquid phase solution?


In my discussion, the TA mentioned that aqueous compounds can be broken into ionic components which is different from solids and liquids since they can't be broken down. I know that it talks more about in section 5G of the textbook.


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