5% Rule

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5% Rule

Postby JesseAuLec1Dis1G » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:16 pm

If I make the assumption because K is less than 10^-3, but the x value is less than 5% do I have to go back and use the quadratic formula to calculate x?

Shimei_2F
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Re: 5% Rule

Postby Shimei_2F » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:18 pm

If X is less than 5% of the initial, you should be on the right track!

Gerald Bernal1I
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Re: 5% Rule

Postby Gerald Bernal1I » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:21 pm

The protonation being less than 5% guarantees that the assumption to neglect X because the change is so small so you should not have to use the quadratic.

Dan M -3E
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Re: 5% Rule

Postby Dan M -3E » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:30 pm

Yeah, it being less than 5% just means u can neglect it the x that is subtracted when calculating the Kc using x

Sara Richmond 2K
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Re: 5% Rule

Postby Sara Richmond 2K » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:57 am

JesseAuLec1Dis1G wrote:If I make the assumption because K is less than 10^-3, but the x value is less than 5% do I have to go back and use the quadratic formula to calculate x?


If the value is less than 5% you are good to go. If the value is more than 5% you would need to go back and use the quadratic formula.

BCaballero_4F
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Re: 5% Rule

Postby BCaballero_4F » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:56 pm

You go back and use the quadratic formula only if it is more than 5%

Michelle N - 2C
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Re: 5% Rule

Postby Michelle N - 2C » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:50 am

JesseAuLec1Dis1G wrote:If I make the assumption because K is less than 10^-3, but the x value is less than 5% do I have to go back and use the quadratic formula to calculate x?


I believe the 5% rule applies to when we are to ignore the -x in the problem or not, because what I remembered was that as long as the answer is within the 5% rule, then our approximation is valid.

Ellen Amico 2L
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Re: 5% Rule

Postby Ellen Amico 2L » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:53 am

If the % ionization is less than 5%, then we can use assumption and get rid of the x in the denominator since the initial and equilibrium concentrations will be very similar.

ThomasNguyen_Dis1H
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Re: 5% Rule

Postby ThomasNguyen_Dis1H » Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:33 pm

No only when it is more than 5% then you have to do quadratic

Kylie Lim 4G
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Re: 5% Rule

Postby Kylie Lim 4G » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:32 pm

you only need to go back and use the quadratic formula if you check X and it is more than 5% of the initial value


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