ICE Tables

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ICE Tables

Postby Nina Fukui 2J » Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:16 am

When filling the "C" row for ICE tables, the values of the X's etc are only determined by the stoichiometric coefficients? or does it have to do with the molarity?

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Kelly Tran 1J » Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:23 am

The change in equilibrium, denoted by the "C" row, is determined by the stoichiometric coefficients. Whether the change in x is a positive or negative value depends on whether the reactant or product is being used up. For example, if the reactant is being used up, then the change will be -x whereas the product will be +x.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Lillian Ma 1I » Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:25 am

The amount of times x is added or subtracted solely depends on the coefficients so if the coefficient was 2, you would add/subtract 2x. The value of x may depend on the molarity because of how molarity is involved in the calculations that follow.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Navdha Sharma 3J » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:55 am

The C row or the change row is determined by the stoichiometric coefficients in the reaction equation.

For ex: H2 + Cl2 ---> 2HCl

In the forward reaction the change for H2 will be -x, for Cl2 will be -x, and HCl will be +2x(because of its coefficients).

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby George Hernandez 3I » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:22 am

The coefficients determine how many x's are added or subtracted on each cooresponding side of the chemical equation.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Wil Chai 3D » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:01 am

Like everyone else has said, even though x represents a change in molarity, it's based on the stoich coefficients. By definition, Molarity is moles/liters. The change in moles/liters of each species involved in the reaction will depend on stoich coefficients, since those give the mole ratios of each.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Mahi Kabra 2F » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:31 am

It's only determined by the stoichiometric coefficients!

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Violet Kwan 3H » Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:58 pm

The "I" row refers to the concentration or molarity, and the "C" row only refers to the coefficients.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Saumya Tawakley 1E » Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:53 pm

Yes, the C row refers to change in molarity based on stoichiometric coefficients, while the I row deals with initial molarity and the E row is just the sum of I and C to find equilibrium molarities.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby MariaCassol1L » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:26 pm

When setting up ICE tables the changes in concentration will be dependent on the stoichiometric coefficient. This is because we want to keep the values balanced. Using an example:

N2 + 3H2 ----> 2NH3

You need 1mol of N2 to interact with 3mol of H2 and that forms 2 mol of NH3
and say you start with 4mol of N2. If there is a decrease of 2mol in N2 (so [N2]= 2mol at equi), you know that you need 6mol of H2 to react with those 2mol of N2, so [H2] will decrease by 6mol (because for every mol of N2 you use 3mol of H2). You also know that you will form 4mol of NH3 (because for every mol of N2 you create 2mol of NH3), so that [NH3] will increase by 4mol. So if the change in concentration is x then, for a change in x mols of [N2] you will have a change of 3x in [H2] and a change of 2x in [NH3]

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Justin Lin 1B » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:16 pm

We would determine the x value by the stoichiometric coefficient!

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Kyla Roche 2K » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:50 pm

For the reactants it is -x and for the products it is +x. The magnitude of x is determined by the stoichiometric coefficient.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Brianna Martilla 1C » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:55 pm

It only has to do with the coefficients.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Katie Phan 1K » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:01 pm

Just the coefficients!

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Sophia Spungin 2E » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:27 pm

Yes, I believe that the values of X correspond to the ratios between the stoichiometric coefficients, and you can decide the way in which to use these ratios.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby keely_bales_1f » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:39 pm

The values of x, or rather the quantity of it, does correspond to the stoichiometric coefficients of the balanced chemical equation.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Brianna Chen 3F » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:46 pm

The stoichiometric coefficients determine the value of C in the ICE table.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Ansh Patel 2I » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:53 pm

Hi! You're right, the C row is determined by stoichiometric coefficients.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby JaesalSoma1E » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:54 pm

The C row is for the change in equilibrium, which is denoted by x. Then, you would multiply x by the stoichiometric coefficient.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Melissa Solis 1H » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:20 pm

The C row in the ICE table only use the stoichiometric coefficients :)

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Michael Cardenas 3B » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:33 am

The C row is only for the change in equilibrium, which is represented by X, and this is multiplied by the stoichiometric coefficient.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Crystal Pan 2G » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:37 am

The x's are determined by the stoichiometric coefficients.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Eve Gross-Sable 1B » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:25 am

The numbers next to Xs are just the coefficients and do not have to do with the molarity. Molarity is the concentration, which you end up plugging in later.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Shana Patel 1C » Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:32 am

X stands for the C row - the change in equilibrium. This figure will be multiplied by the stoichiometric coefficient. This is all found in the ICE table.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Krish_Ajmani_3J » Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:08 am

The stochiometric coefficient tells you the coefficient in front of X in the "C" row of the ICE table. For example, if there are 2 moles of a substance in the balanced equation, the "C" row should indicate -2X or +2X (depending on the problem).

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Javier Perez M 1H » Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:51 am

It depends on what is given. Think of it as an equilibrium reaction where if the products are given instead of reactants you have to decrease products to get your reactants and then use reactants to possibly find the eq concentration of your product.
right everyone? or am I wrong?

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Will Skinner » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:07 am

It is only be determined by stoichiometric coefficients because we are solving for the molarity values.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby David Liu 1E » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:06 pm

it's based off the coefficients!

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Liam Bertrand 3 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:18 pm

coefficients!

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Winzel Payumo 1B » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:27 pm

It's always the coefficient, hence why you need to make sure the equation provided is balanced! The molarity/pressure will only appear for the I and E rows :)

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Ziyan Peng 3A » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:35 pm

Coefficients! This is because x in and of itself represents some amount of molarity and in the C part of the ICE chart we are trying to quantify the amount of change. These changes should be proportional to the stoichiometry of the reaction, therefore the coefficients before x.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Kat Stahl 2K » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:48 pm

Yes the x value is determined by the coefficient, just like everyone else has said!

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Sophia Spungin 2E » Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:24 pm

I believe that it is only dictated by the stoichiometric coefficient. It is during the 'E' row that molarity is taken into account.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Nan_Guan_1L » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:38 pm

In order to get the correct ICE table, both factors would matter since the coefficient of reactants and products determines the coefficient of x, and whether it’s used up or being produced determines the sign in front of x

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby IshanModiDis2L » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:47 pm

Like mentioned above, the coefficients determine how much of an x value is added or subtracted on each side of the reaction. I would suggest to make sure the reaction is balanced however.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby Jeremy Wei 2C » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:07 am

Hi! Like everyone else said, the x-values are determined by the coefficients.

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Re: ICE Tables

Postby David Y » Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:49 pm

It is dependent on the stoichiometric coefficients and whether the compound is a reactant or product for a negative or positive value of x.


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