Achieve Wk 2 #2 Percent Ionization

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Achieve Wk 2 #2 Percent Ionization

Postby Ashley Hiti 1K » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:58 pm

I am little confused by the feedback I got on my first attempt.

Question: The Ka of a monoprotic weak acid is 0.00831. What is the percent ionization of a 0.184 M solution of this acid?

To solve I set 0.00831 = [H+]^2/0.184 and got [H+] = 0.0391.

When I divided this by the molarity of the acid at multiplied by 100 I got 21.3% ionization.

Achieve marked this incorrect and this is the feedback. "The assumption you made is not valid. You should use the quadratic equation instead."

I am not sure what assumption it made/where I should be using the quadratic equation.

Kiku Shirakata 2A
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Re: Achieve Wk 2 #2 Percent Ionization

Postby Kiku Shirakata 2A » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:06 pm

Hello,

For #2, I think the invalid assumption you made is in the Ka equation you set up. You wrote 0.00831 = [H+]^2/0.184, but instead, it should be 0.00831 = x^2/(0.184 - x). Sometimes, we are allowed to ignore the 'x' in the denominator when the Ka value is less than 10^-3. However, in this case, we need to include the 'x' because the Ka value is not small enough. By adding that variable, you will need to solve a quadratic equation to find the value of x, which will be equivalent to [H+] at equilibrium.

Hope this helps!

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Re: Achieve Wk 2 #2 Percent Ionization

Postby KatieWu 1E » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:30 pm

Additionally, make sure that after you find x, to find the percent ionization you use the x value and divide it by the initial concentration of the solution, not the equilibrium value.

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Re: Achieve Wk 2 #2 Percent Ionization

Postby RossLechner3E » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:34 pm

It is true that when Ka or Kb is smaller than 10^-3 we can assume the line .184 - x to be just .184, but in this case when you solve the percent protonation and it is more than 5% it is not longer viable to assume 0.184 - x is 0.184. You must use the quadratic formula otherwise the margin of error is just too big to assume.

Allison Li 2F
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Re: Achieve Wk 2 #2 Percent Ionization

Postby Allison Li 2F » Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:25 pm

Hi! When k is smaller than 10^-3 we can approximate and ignore the x in the denominator. However, this is not a foolproof method because there can still be errors. In fact, the percentage is greater than 5%, which means this margin of error is too great and we cannot approximate the value of x. In this case, you would need to use the quadratic formula.

Matthew Li 1B
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Re: Achieve Wk 2 #2 Percent Ionization

Postby Matthew Li 1B » Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:17 pm

you would have to use the quadratic equation to solve for this problem because Ka is big enough where there is greater than 5% percent ionization


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