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Charged or neutral

Postby 705676154 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:08 am

For a weak base how can I tell if the predominant species at a certain pH is charged, neutral, or unknown?

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Re: Charged or neutral

Postby katrinahuwang_1L » Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:57 am

You can determine whether or not the predominant species at a certain pH is charged, neutral, or unknown when comparing it to the pKa of the conjugate acid.
When the pH of the solution is equal to the pKa of the conjugate acid (BH+), this means that there are equal amounts of the weak base (B) and the the conjugate acid (BH+) in solution.

When pH < pKa, the charged, protonated species of BH+ will become more predominant in solution. When pH > pKa, the neutral, deprotonated species of B will become more predominant in solution.

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Re: Charged or neutral

Postby sadiebrebes » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:52 pm

katrinahuwang_1L wrote:You can determine whether or not the predominant species at a certain pH is charged, neutral, or unknown when comparing it to the pKa of the conjugate acid.
When the pH of the solution is equal to the pKa of the conjugate acid (BH+), this means that there are equal amounts of the weak base (B) and the the conjugate acid (BH+) in solution.

When pH < pKa, the charged, protonated species of BH+ will become more predominant in solution. When pH > pKa, the neutral, deprotonated species of B will become more predominant in solution.


How do you calculate the pka of only the conjugate acid? What are the steps?

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Re: Charged or neutral

Postby Jocelyn Chin 1K » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:55 pm

sadiebrebes wrote:
katrinahuwang_1L wrote:You can determine whether or not the predominant species at a certain pH is charged, neutral, or unknown when comparing it to the pKa of the conjugate acid.
When the pH of the solution is equal to the pKa of the conjugate acid (BH+), this means that there are equal amounts of the weak base (B) and the the conjugate acid (BH+) in solution.

When pH < pKa, the charged, protonated species of BH+ will become more predominant in solution. When pH > pKa, the neutral, deprotonated species of B will become more predominant in solution.


How do you calculate the pka of only the conjugate acid? What are the steps?


The equation for the conjugate acid is BH+ + H2O--> B + H3O+. Ka is the equilibrium constant for this equation, so [B][H3O+]/[BH+], and pKa would be -log of this Ka.

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Re: Charged or neutral

Postby cnyland » Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:03 pm

If the pH is greater than the pKa, the deprotonated species is dominant, so it would be neutral
If the ph is less than the pKa, the protonated species is dominant, so it would be charged

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Re: Charged or neutral

Postby 405566265 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:16 pm

if there is a large Ka or Kb, then this means that the acid or base is strong and dissociates more. you can find the percent ionized to determine whether the dominant species is neutral or charged. if for example, more than 50% of the compound becomes ionized, then the dominant species is charged.

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Re: Charged or neutral

Postby Ginny Ghang 1B » Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:57 pm

If pH is equal to the pKa of the conjugate acid, there are equal amounts of the weak base and the conjugate acid. If pH is below pKa, there will be more of the charged BH+ in the solution. If pH is above the pKa, there will be more of the neutral B species in the solution.

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Re: Charged or neutral

Postby Ally Mosher » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:22 pm

cnyland wrote:If the pH is greater than the pKa, the deprotonated species is dominant, so it would be neutral
If the ph is less than the pKa, the protonated species is dominant, so it would be charged



Thank you, this helped alot.

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Re: Charged or neutral

Postby Amanda Jacobs 2B » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:26 pm

You can tell if it is charged or neutral by seeing if the pKa is smaller or larger than the pH. And if they are equal then there is an equal amount of charged and neutral molecules. If pKa is greater then it's charged, if pKA is smaller then it's neutral.

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Re: Charged or neutral

Postby Arden Napoli 1E » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:53 pm

Hi,

To determine if the predominant species is charged or neutral is dependent on the relationship between pKa and pH. If the pKa is greater than the pH, then the predominant species is charged. If the pKa and the pH are equal, then the predominant species is neutral.


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