Using Kc Vs Kp

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Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby Rodrigo2J » Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:50 pm

When a question asks us to identify the equilibrium expression for K, can we use either Kp (use partial pressures for the expression) or Kc (use concentrations for the expression)? or do we have to use a specific one in certain situations?

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby Astrid Lunde 1I » Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:55 pm

The units in the question should help you find out when to use Kc and Kp. Kc is in M and Kp is in Bar.

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby Kallista McCarty 1C » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:19 pm

You should be able to tell based on the question that is being asked!

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby 805307623 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:30 pm

It might be helpful to pay close attention to the chemical equation and see if the molecules being used are identified as (l),(g),(aq).

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby Edmund Zhi 2B » Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:35 pm

I believe you should look at the states of matter and try and determine from that

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby Megan Cao 1I » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:18 pm

Kc is generally used when you're given molar concentrations of solutions and Kp is generally used when you're given partial pressures.

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby faithkim1L » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:48 pm

Kp is used for gases. Kc can be used for aqueous solutions. It's best to just go by the equation. Remember Kp is in pressure units and Kc is for concentration (M).

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby Shail Avasthi 2C » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:54 pm

If you're looking at aqueous equilibrium, use Kc. If looking at gasses, you can either use Kc or Kp. Use the question to determine the proper answer.

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby Eva Zhao 4I » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:09 am

Kp can only be used when reactants and products are gases. Kc can be used for gases or aqueous substances, but you should check the units involved to ensure you're using the right K.

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby 205291012 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:16 pm

This depends on the information given in the question. I believe even if the molar concentrations of gases is given then you would just calculate Kc. But if the partial pressures are given then calculate Kp.

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby Mariah » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:18 pm

It just depends on what is given at the beginning and what is being asked for.

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby bellaha4F » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:08 pm

if all the components are gases, use kp. if all aqueous, use kc. (unless the test question says otherwise)

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby Kristina Rizo 2K » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:01 pm

I know the units for Kc is molarity, but could someone give the units to know if it is partial pressure.

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby Leonardo Le Merle 1D » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:29 pm

There is no unit for Kc or Kp, it is simply a value used to represent the ratio of product and reactant concentration at equilibrium

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby 705367472 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:20 pm

When trying to find Kc or Kp you would use the same equation of product over reactants just like finding Q?

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby 605395381 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:23 pm

It would depends on the chemical equation given

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby vanessas0123 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:21 am

You use Kc when given concentrations, and Kp when given partial pressures.

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby Trent Yamamoto 2J » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:48 pm

You would use Kc when given molar concentrations of solutions in any state and Kp when you're given partial pressures only in the gas state

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby kennedyp » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:14 pm

If you are given concentrations, then you should use Kc. If you are given gases, then you should use Kp.

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby Susanna Givan 2B » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:29 pm

Is there any main difference in terms of how you solve K for Kc versus Kp?

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby Caelin Brenninkmeijer 1G » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:40 pm

Susanna Givan 2B wrote:Is there any main difference in terms of how you solve K for Kc versus Kp?

When calculating Kc, I believe you can use the [P]/[R] equation. You can also use PV=nRT when converting between Kc and Kp.

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby Susan Chamling 1F » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:51 pm

We use Kc if the problem uses concentrations, but we use Kp if the problem provides partial pressures.

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Re: Using Kc Vs Kp

Postby Sam Wentzel 1F 14B » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:56 pm

It depends on the state of the materials given. If the chemical equation involves gases, usually partial pressures. If the chemical equation involves AQ state chemicals, then usually use concentrations.


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