X is to small

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Andrea_Torres
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X is to small

Postby Andrea_Torres » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:24 pm

I read on chemistry community that the x is ignored if the K Is less than 10^-3 but is K always going to be given? If not how will I know when the x should be ignored?

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Re: X is to small

Postby 205007651 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:29 pm

I believe they should always give you K but I'm not completely sure. Also in the review session today, the K was smaller than 10^-3 but we still couldn't discard the x so I'm slightly confused.

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Re: X is to small

Postby KHowe_1D » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:30 pm

If you didn't have K you wouldn't be able to solve for x. So I think we can assume that we either have to solve for K or for x but not both so in a scenario where you solve for x, K should be given.

DanielTalebzadehShoushtari2A
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Re: X is to small

Postby DanielTalebzadehShoushtari2A » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:34 pm

I believe you can check to see if dropping the x is valid. You do the calculation (with x dropped) and then seeing if the resulting concentration value for x is less than 5 percent of the original concentration of solution (what you started with). If it is, then your approximation is valid.

Sean Tran 2K
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Re: X is to small

Postby Sean Tran 2K » Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:31 pm

X is dropped when it is less than 10^-3 and the percent at the end is less than 5

Ryan Chang 1C
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Re: X is to small

Postby Ryan Chang 1C » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:37 pm

What values do you use to calculate if the percent at the end is less than 5.

Aarushi Solanki 4F
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Re: X is to small

Postby Aarushi Solanki 4F » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:41 pm

You can disregard x when K is less than 10^(-3) because it will be an extremely small value that won't affect your calculations. However, to ensure that you were correct in disregarding the x value, you must check if x is less than 5% of the original solution's concentration.

Ashley Alvarado 2C
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Re: X is to small

Postby Ashley Alvarado 2C » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:53 pm

When Kc< 10^-3 and x is less than 5% of the initial concentration then it is okay to approximate.

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Re: X is to small

Postby Joanne Lee 1J » Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:11 pm

K will always be given when solving for x or else there would be no way for us to find x.


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