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ICE Tables
When constructing ICE tables for chemical equations containing gases, liquids, solids, and aqueous solutions
are solids, liquids, and aqueous solutions included in the table, or are only the gases included?
are solids, liquids, and aqueous solutions included in the table, or are only the gases included?
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Re: ICE Tables
Hi! You do not include solid or liquid solutions in ICE tables, only gases and aqueous solutions. Hope this helps!
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Re: ICE Tables
Yes, as stated above, you do not include the concentrations of solids or liquids (the solvent) in your ICE Table calculations.
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Re: ICE Tables
Emilie Otterson 1C wrote:When constructing ICE tables for chemical equations containing gases, liquids, solids, and aqueous solutions
are solids, liquids, and aqueous solutions included in the table, or are only the gases included?
Only gaseous and aqueous solutions are included in the table. Solids are not included in the table because there is no such thing as a concentration of a solid and it is assumed that liquids are present in such excess that they do not affect the reaction.
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Re: ICE Tables
you include gases and acqueous solutions within the table because they affect the K value so in that case solids and liquids are excluded from this calculation
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Re: ICE Tables
Only gases and aqueous solutions should be included in ICE tables, not solids or liquids because they don't change significantly during the reaction and thus should be excluded.
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You only include aq and g because they have actual concentrations. Solids do not have concentrations, and in the case of water, its concentration changes by a negligible amount, so you do not include it in the ICE table either
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Re: ICE Tables
I would not include liquids and solids because you don't use them in the equation anyway.
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Re: ICE Tables
Only the gases and aqueous solutions are included because only they are capable of changing significantly during a reaction.
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Only aqueous solutions and gases should be included because you cannot take the concentration of a solid and since we assume that there is an excess of liquids we do not include them either!
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Re: ICE Tables
Liquids and solids should not be included in the ICE tables, only gases and aqueous solutions should be included.
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Re: ICE Tables
You only include gaseous and aqueous substances, because solids are not dissociated and thus have no concentration and liquids are present in such excess that the amount they change in a reaction is negligible.
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Re: ICE Tables
You do not include solids or liquids in ICE tables. You should only include gases and aqueous solutions.
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Solids and liquids are not included in the equilibrium constant expression or ICE tables as a solid doesn't have a concentration when placed in a solvent and a liquid changes minutely relative to its initial amount. Gases and aqueous solutions, however, will be recorded in an ICE table as their initial concentration can change significantly when a reaction takes place.
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Re: ICE Tables
You base your ICE table off the chemical equation so if you do not use liquids or solids when writing that out, I do not believe they would be used in the ICE table.
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Re: ICE Tables
Hello! So basically, due to the fact that ICE stands for Inital, Change, and Equilibrium, these charts are used to measure a change in concentration, pressure, etc. For that reason, as solids do not change concentration, and solvents (liquids) do not affect this change in a system, solids and liquids are excluded, whereas gases and aqueous solutions are in an ICE table.
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Re: ICE Tables
You only use aqueous and gases in Ice tables. Solids can not have a change in concentration and liquids basically have no change in their concentration so we don't even include them.
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Re: ICE Tables
Only gases and aqueous solutions would be used in an icee table since solids and liquids are not calculated when finding equilibriium.
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Re: ICE Tables
When making an ICE table, you only include gases and aqueous solutions. Hope this helps!!
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Re: ICE Tables
When using the ICE table, you only include aqueous phase and gas phase substances, and omit liquid and solid phase substances.
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Re: ICE Tables
For ICE tables only the partial pressure of gases or concentrations of liquids or gases are included. The amount of solids and solvents do not change significantly to be included in equilibrium constants
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Re: ICE Tables
You should not add liquids or solids because they are not included when calculating the chemical equilibrium.
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You wouldn't add solids and liquids in the ICE box because they aren't used when calculated the equilibrium constant.
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Re: ICE Tables
Solids and liquids don't have concentrations or partial pressures so they are not included. However, gasses have partial pressures and aqueous solutions have concentrations so they are included in ICE tables.
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Re: ICE Tables
Hello!
Gases and aqueous compounds are the only that are taken into account in the ICE tables because only gases and aqueous compounds can affect K. Gases have partial pressure and aqueous solutions have concentrations. Solids and liquids do not have changes in partial pressures nor concentrations to be measured so they don't affect K and don't go in the ICE table. Hope this helps!
Gases and aqueous compounds are the only that are taken into account in the ICE tables because only gases and aqueous compounds can affect K. Gases have partial pressure and aqueous solutions have concentrations. Solids and liquids do not have changes in partial pressures nor concentrations to be measured so they don't affect K and don't go in the ICE table. Hope this helps!
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Re: ICE Tables
Solids don't have a "concentration," and the concentrations of liquids barely change, so they are excluded from the equilibrium expression.
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Re: ICE Tables
Only gases and aqueous solutions should be included in an ICE table. Solids do not have concentrations. Liquids are in such excess that their "concentrations" do not change significantly. Hope this helps!
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Re: ICE Tables
Hi Emilie!
Gases and aqueous solutions are included in the ICE table, but not liquids or solids. It's basically just whatever you would include in the Ka/Kb/K equation.
Gases and aqueous solutions are included in the ICE table, but not liquids or solids. It's basically just whatever you would include in the Ka/Kb/K equation.
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Re: ICE Tables
only gases and aqueous solution are used. Solids & liquids do not change concentration much.
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Re: ICE Tables
Only gases and aqueous solutions are included. This is because the concentration change of liquids and solids is negligible.
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Re: ICE Tables
Liquids are often solvents so their concentration is so large that a change in equilibrium ICE table will be negligible. Solids also do not participate in equilibrium.
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