Achieve Week 2 Question 2

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Achieve Week 2 Question 2

Postby Abby Citro 2A » Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:57 pm

"The Ka of a monoprotic weak acid is 0.00675. What is the percent ionization of a 0.177 M solution of this acid?"

I used an ICE table to determine the formula, and did 0.00675 = x^2/(0.177 - x) to get x = 0.1058. After that, I did 0.1058/0.177 x 100 to get the percent ionization value of 69.77 percent, which is incorrect.

Does anyone know where I went wrong?

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Re: Achieve Week 2 Question 2

Postby Jayden Arevalo 2B » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:05 pm

Hi Abby, I think you miscalculated your x, because I am getting for my x value = .031354. Also, one thing you should notice is that your percentage of ionization is really high, which is atypical considering that you are starting with a weak acid; since weak acids do not dissociate very much. Thus, your percentage ionization should be around 17.71 percent.

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Re: Achieve Week 2 Question 2

Postby Mia Glinn 1I » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:09 pm

Hi! You have the steps all done correctly, and it seems like you understand how to set up ice tables and solve for percent ionization based on that. It must just be a algebra error, and then you should be on your way to getting the correct answer. Remember for this problem you can also approximate your equation to look like 0.00675=x^2/0.177 because the Ka is small. This should make solving easier, good luck!

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Re: Achieve Week 2 Question 2

Postby Tony Chen 1F » Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:23 pm

I don't think you can approximate x in this case because Ka is not less than 10^-3

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Re: Achieve Week 2 Question 2

Postby Madelyn_Rios_2c » Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:33 pm

In this case, we approximate Ka. So you should use 0.00675= x^2 / 0.177 which ends up being x= 0.03456

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Re: Achieve Week 2 Question 2

Postby Jacob Bright 1C » Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:39 pm

If you solved the problem by assuming that x was small enough to set (0.177 - x) to just 0.177, then I believe you will get an incorrect answer as the Ka value is not small enough to allow for such an approximation. In such scenarios, the value of Ka should usually be smaller than 1.0 x 10^-3 in order to be small enough to approximate. In this problem, you should instead use the quadratic equation to solve for the value of x.

Hope this helps!

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Re: Achieve Week 2 Question 2

Postby Saebean Yi 3E » Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:55 pm

My problem had slightly different values, but your steps look correct to me. The first thing that should strike you with your answer is that an ionization percentage of 69.77, is unlikely as we are dealing with a weak acid.

Looks like you might have messed up your algebra/quadratic formula, because I am getting a different x value. Remember, you can't think of the x value as negligible if x is less than 5% of the concentration.

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Re: Achieve Week 2 Question 2

Postby Aparna Pillai 1E » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:09 pm

Your method and steps appear to be correct! I would double check your formula for the quadratic equation and how you entered your numbers in your calculator, since one or more of your calculations seem to be off.

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Re: Achieve Week 2 Question 2

Postby Shannon Clark 1F » Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:07 pm

Hi Abby!
The steps and their order are all done correctly, the part where you made a mistake is with finding the value of x. For this problem, you x value should be x=0.031358. You should get the right answer if you use this x value instead for the rest of the calculations! :)

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Re: Achieve Week 2 Question 2

Postby Caroline 2A » Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:45 pm

Hi!

First, start by assembling an ICE table. Because the value of M is more than 1000 times greater than the Ka, we are able to assume that the concentration change x is sufficiently small compared to the initial concentration. We can check this by dividing the value of X by the initial concentration and multiplying that value by 100%. If x is less than 5% of the concentration, then our assumption is valid (and it is valid in this case).

From there, we can find the pH by using the equation pH= -log[H+] where x is equal to H+. This should give you your final answer.

Hope this helps :)


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