Quadratic Equation vs Approximating

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CaitlinDu_2A
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Quadratic Equation vs Approximating

Postby CaitlinDu_2A » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:38 pm

I'm having trouble deciphering when I would approximate vs when I would use the quadratic equation. For example, I thought in the Achieve hw for week 2 (image below) I could approximate because the Ka is smaller than 10^-3 but the problem tells me to use the quadratic equation instead. Is there something else I need to base it off of?
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Megan Mitchell 2B
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Re: Quadratic Equation vs Approximating

Postby Megan Mitchell 2B » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:44 pm

I believe that you can only make the approximation when x is less than 5% of the initial concentration. In this case, the percent ionization was 8.4%, which is above the 5% threshold so you would have to use the full quadratic equation rather than using the approximation.

Kathleen Vo 1G
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Re: Quadratic Equation vs Approximating

Postby Kathleen Vo 1G » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:37 am

Hey there!

Like mentioned earlier, you can only omit the (-x) from the denominator and approximate if the percent ionization or protonization is less than 5%. But personally, I would recommend taking the extra minute to do the quadratic formula if you are unsure if you can approximate or not. Once you get more comfortable identifying the % ionizations, then should you approximate. It may take a bit more time, but your answers will always be accurate!

Dolores B
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Re: Quadratic Equation vs Approximating

Postby Dolores B » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:14 pm

You also have to be more specific on achieve, sometimes my rounding could be off by .1 and it won't take the answer so it's always best to calculate it all the way through on achieve and just get the extra practice.

SohelaBedi1E
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Re: Quadratic Equation vs Approximating

Postby SohelaBedi1E » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:52 pm

You can only remove x from the denominator if the percent ionization or protonation comes out to be less than 5%. I usually opt to use the quadratic equation to solve anyway just to stay on the safe side!

Kaitlin Lemke 2K
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Re: Quadratic Equation vs Approximating

Postby Kaitlin Lemke 2K » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:03 pm

I would recommend being as specific as possible and only rounding your answer at the end when it comes to Achieve!

Lauren Hsieh 2I
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Re: Quadratic Equation vs Approximating

Postby Lauren Hsieh 2I » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:43 am

If you are unable to determine beforehand whether to approximate or not, I would suggest just approximating for all cases and calculating percent protonation; if it is greater than 5%, then this means the approximation is not valid, meaning you would need to go back and recalculate using the quadratic.


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