2 Positive X-Values in ICE Table

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Kiiana Hilario 2E
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2 Positive X-Values in ICE Table

Postby Kiiana Hilario 2E » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:56 pm

When using the ICE table to solve for x, if you are given two positive x values, how do you know which one to use?

Jasmine Winter 1A
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Re: 2 Positive X-Values in ICE Table

Postby Jasmine Winter 1A » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:00 pm

Very rarely will there be two positive x values; however, in the case that this occurs, you should individually subtract both x values from the initial concentration provided by the problem. If one of the x values provides a negative equilibrium value for concentration, then the other x value should be selected.

Brandon_G_1H
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Re: 2 Positive X-Values in ICE Table

Postby Brandon_G_1H » Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:01 pm

Hello! Like the reply above, if you do get 2 positive values when solving the quadratic, then plug them both in the original equation and disregard the x that gives you a negative value.

Dylan Cho 3H
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Re: 2 Positive X-Values in ICE Table

Postby Dylan Cho 3H » Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:46 pm

Hello,

Whenever you get two positive values, one is normally going to be larger than the initial concentrations given. Because of this, subtracting from the initial concentration would give you a negative concentration which isn't possible. Therefore, you would want to compare the values and use the one that gives you a positive, not a negative.

Hope this helps! :)

Payton Zarceno 1E
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Re: 2 Positive X-Values in ICE Table

Postby Payton Zarceno 1E » Sun Feb 05, 2023 8:31 pm

Hi! Usually, if I get two positive values one is considerably more significant than the other and doesn't make sense to use in the equation. But if you have two positive values I would suggest subtracting it from the initial concentration, one of the values should give you an unusable negative value.

Vivian_Lau_2D
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Re: 2 Positive X-Values in ICE Table

Postby Vivian_Lau_2D » Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:36 pm

Hello. After solving for the quadratic equation, you would usually get a negative and positive value for X and use only the positive value to solve for the equilibrium molar concentrations. However, if you get two positive values for X, plug both X values into the equilibrium concentration equations, and use the X value that will give you positive equilibrium molar concentrations for all reactants and products in the reaction. Hope this helps!

Ashlynn_Chen_3H
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Re: 2 Positive X-Values in ICE Table

Postby Ashlynn_Chen_3H » Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:55 pm

Kiiana Hilario 2E wrote:When using the ICE table to solve for x, if you are given two positive x values, how do you know which one to use?



if you found 2 positive x values, you use the x value that will not give a negative concentration at equilibrium. Typically, one of the positive x values will be very large or just light large enough so when you calculate equilibrium concentration (initial concentration-X) it will be negative which is not realistic. So that's how you choose the x value


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