Does K change or not?

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Does K change or not?

Postby OishiBhattacharya2K » Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:46 pm

I am a bit confused about the behavior of the value K when reactant/product is being added/taken away in a rxn. In #10 of the Chemical Equilibria Achieve hw, the solution states that adding extra product will not affect the rate constant Kc. However on question #8, one of the correct answers state "Q>K because K decreased." So for #10, it says that K does not change, but in #8 it decreases, which seems contradictory to me. Is it because #8 involved a change in temperature? Can somebody clarify?

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Holly Do 2J » Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:57 pm

Hi,

So the difference between question #8 and question #10 is that question #8 is a change in temperature which DOES change the Ka value while in #10 adding/removing products or reactants DOES NOT change the Ka.

I hope this cleared things up a bit.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Barbara Soliman 1G » Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:00 am

K only changes with temperature. The equilibrium constant is a fixed ratio at each temperature. So if the temperature is the same, the equilibrium constant will not change at all. However, if the temperature changes, there is now a new equilibrium constant set for the temperature. Hope this helps!

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Jessica Servoss 1H » Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:27 pm

The one major thing that can cause K to change in a reaction, is the temperature of the system. Once the temperature changes, a new K is created from the reaction.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby HaleyC 2F » Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:55 pm

Changing the temperature changes the K value.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Caden Ciraulo 1J » Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:59 pm

As stated, K only changes if the temperature changes. This is the condition that is referenced when stating that the reaction occurs under the same conditions. The way this works is that K is an equilibrium constant that is constant as long as the condition of temperature is kept the same. Any other condition that is changed may temporarily shift the reaction in order to reach K again (for example, changing the concentration of reactants via adding more or decreasing the volume), but when temperature is changed, K shifts and the reaction shifts with it.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Madison Kiggins 1E » Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:08 pm

Hi, a change in temperature is the only thing that will change the value of K. For number 8, the thing that is changed in the system is the temperature, this results in a new K value. For number 10 on the other hand, the amount of products or reactants is what is changed and that does not result in the K value changing.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Olivia Peony Dis 2A » Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:13 pm

Hi!

K is constant for a given temperature, so when the temperature changes, K changes. But as long as temp does not change, K does not change.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Samantha Quevedo 2L » Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:46 pm

Kc is a constant that only changes when temperature changes. Changing the concentration of a product or reactant does not change Kc!

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby tim_villasenor 1k » Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:20 pm

are there certain cases when pressure changes Kc ?

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Caden Ciraulo 1J » Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:23 pm

tim_villasenor 1k wrote:are there certain cases when pressure changes Kc ?

Changing pressure on its own won't affect Kc. However, you must be aware of why pressure changed. Knowing that PV=nRT, you there is a possibility that pressure increases as a result of temperature increasing, meaning that in a case where pressure changes due to a change in temperature, Kc also changes, but that is still due to a temperature change.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby indigoaustin 3H » Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:50 pm

K is specific to a reaction at a specific temperature, so changing the temperature changes K. I hope this helps!

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Mahli Martinez 2I » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:03 pm

The only factor that really changes K would be temperature, as K remains constant so long as temperature is constant.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby LukeYing_3H » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:14 pm

The K value is a constant for a reaction at a specific temperature so changing the temperature will change the K value.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Madison Yee 2B » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:31 pm

Adding reactant or product will not change the value of K. While the concentrations of the reactants and products will change, since K is a ratio of the concentration of products to reactants, it will not change. K really only changes when you change the temperature.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby isabella garcia - 1G » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:45 pm

A change in temperature will result in a change in K, which is why #8 states that Q>K because K decreased following a change in temperature.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby 405509920 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:30 pm

It's easier to remember what changes K rather than what doesn't. ONLY temperature changes K, everything else is pretty much moot.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Clarissa Le 1I » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:35 pm

For #8, K changes because the temperature changed. However, K is a constant and it can be assumed that when the temperature doesn't change, K stays the same, like in #10!

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Saebean Yi 3E » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:39 pm

Yes, Kc will not change no matter how much reactant or product you add; its a constant. Perhaps you're confusing it with the idea of Q, the reaction quotient, since that will change. Though, Q will naturally equal K (meaning it's at equilibrium) as the reaction shifts toward the direction in favor of the side that is lacking.
However, temperature will change the K value since K, while it is a constant, its a constant at a given temperature.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Angela Harrington 2L » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:54 pm

Q changes when you add or remove reactants/products, but K does not. However, K does change when there is a temperature change.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby taline krumian 1L » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:33 pm

In question 8, the K value changes due to temperature change. If a reaction is exothermic, increasing temperature decreases K. If a reaction is endothermic, increasing temperature increases K.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Rishab_Haldar_3B » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:35 pm

Temperature will affect the K value as the K value is constant for a reaction at a specific temperature

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Mario Prado 1K » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:37 pm

Hello,

The reason K can change in #8 is because that is a change in temperature which does affect K. While in #10 you are only adding/removing products which has no effect on K.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby IA_1D » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:40 pm

HI,
The short answer will be that K changes with temperature, not by adding or removing reactants/products.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Albert 1I » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:40 pm

K changes with temperature depending on the reaction. It stays the same at a specific and constant temperature.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Jessica Berejikian » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:42 pm

According to Le Chatelier's principle, K only changes if there is a change in temperature; K remains the same if there is a change in concentration in the products/reactants or a change in pressure.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Katherine Li 1A » Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:01 am

K only changes when the temperature is changed. When products and/or reactants are being added or removed, K remains the same, and it is instead Q that changes, causing the reaction to shift.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Mara Crooks 1F » Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:36 am

K changes with the temperature only so that is why it is affected in one problem(#8) and not the other (#10). It does not change based on the reactants or products, just temp.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Charlie Sjogren-Black » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:18 pm

K changes when temperature changes.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Sarah Hong 2K » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:15 pm

Changing temperature (like in #8) changes the K value, however changing concentrations (like in #10) does not permanently change the K value.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Lindsey Walter 3E » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:12 pm

K is constant as long as the temperature is constant. Once tempurature changes, K will change.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Nicole Ton 3C » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:54 pm

Hi! K is dependent on temperature, so when temperature changes, so does the K value. However, adding or taking away a reactant or product will not change the K value. It will cause the system to go out of equilibrium, meaning there will be a Q value, but eventually it will go back to equilibrium with the same K value.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Reece Fong 2k » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:09 am

When temperature changes, so does K. However, when concentrations change, K will remain the same and the concentrations will work to reach the same ratio as before, which is equal to K

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Nicole Friday 1E » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:12 pm

K only changes when there is a temperature change. K will not change with a change in the concentration, but the system will try to return back to equilibrium to return to the same K ratio from the beginning.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Madeline Ellmore 2C » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:25 pm

K only changes when there is a temperature change! In terms of pressure and concentration, the ratio is staying the same between the products and reactants

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Gianna Greco 1G » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:29 pm

Hi! K changes if temperature changes because the equilibrium constant is fixed at a specific temperature but shifts as temperature changes.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby hanniaghernandez » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:05 pm

Hello! To my understanding K changes only when the temperature does. Professor Lavelle goes other this concept on the recorded lecture from Friday 1/7 if you would like to go back and watch it, he goes over the fact that the change of concentration and pressure does not change the K value but tempature does.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Emmaplant1c » Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:43 pm

K is the equilibrium constant at a given temperature, so will change with temperature changes!

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby alexjung1A » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:47 pm

K only changes when temperature changes, but otherwise it will remain constant.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Genelle Marcelino-Searles 2G » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:19 am

The only thing that can change the K value is temperature, so when adding products, K does not change.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Acharya Ranawat 3E » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:42 pm

K only changes due to temperature. Nothing else effects it. Hope this helps!

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Daniel Tabibian 3K » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:07 am

Removing or adding products and reactants won't change the K value. The main thing that will would be temperature.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Darren Apostol 2L » Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:59 pm

K changes with the temperature, with each temperature having a constant K associated with it for a given reaction.

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Re: Does K change or not?

Postby Ruirui Lan » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:04 pm

Hi! K changes in response to a change in temperature but not to a change in reactant/product concentration. Since in question 8 the temperature is changed, K should also be different after the change in temp. However, in question 10, the temperature remains constant. Therefore, K should remain the same. Hope this clarifies things.


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