what determines strength of acids?

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Ella_hou
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what determines strength of acids?

Postby Ella_hou » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:31 pm

what determines the strength of acids when comparing compounds?
in lecture, i'm pretty sure Lavelle said that weak bonds allow dissociation to happen easier. therefore, atoms with bigger radiuses (weaker) will be more acidic.
ex: HBR and HI HI will be the stronger acid?
also, what factors do you have to look at when comparing the strength of bases?

Mihir Sukhatme 1D
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Re: what determines strength of acids?

Postby Mihir Sukhatme 1D » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:36 pm

Yes, stronger acids dissociate easier. The strong acids we are dealing with have 100% dissociation. And you are correct about HI being a stronger acid than HCl.

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Re: what determines strength of acids?

Postby Meia Schram 1J » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:44 pm

Yes, your reasoning why HI is a stronger acid than HCl is completely correct! We know that strong acids will completely deprotonate (basically dissolve) all the way while weak acids won't. From previous lectures we learned that a single bond is weaker than a double or triple so that can be a factor as well as radius size like you were saying. Going down a group the size gets bigger weaking that bond making it easier to break.

Hope this helps!

Andrew_Ramirez
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Re: what determines strength of acids?

Postby Andrew_Ramirez » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:54 pm

Acidity is tied to proton concentration essentially supporting the idea that a stronger acid releases more protons. A stronger acid will always release more protons meaning acidity will increase with things such as atomic radius. There is no specific measure for a strong acid but Professor Lavelle said that only the first halogen is a weak acid and the rest are strong acids.

indigoaustin 3H
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Re: what determines strength of acids?

Postby indigoaustin 3H » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:01 pm

Strong acids produce more protons in solution than a weak acids, which are incompletely ionized in solution. Strong acids have weaker bonds since the bonds must break to ionize.

Serene Liu 3H
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Re: what determines strength of acids?

Postby Serene Liu 3H » Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:07 am

Another thing I learned in Michael's UA session was a helpful mnemonic to memorize the 6 strong acids, and he said that anything else would basically be considered a weak acid. It's "SO I BRought NO CLean CLothes" which stands for H2SO4, H2I, HBr, HNO3, HCl, HClO4 and HClO3

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Re: what determines strength of acids?

Postby Neha Jonnalagadda 2D » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:13 pm

The strength of an acid is related to how likely it is to dissociate when is it aqueous. This means that compounds that dissociate easier are stronger acids.


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