Bronsted and Lewis acids/base

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Bronsted and Lewis acids/base

Postby Qinyan Feng 1H » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:31 pm

Hi

I remember Dr. Lavelle said something like "bronsted acids are always lewis acids", (or something in reverse, I cannot remember). Could someone help me to clarify this point and explain why?

Thank you.

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Re: Bronsted and Lewis acids/base

Postby AudreyQian1J » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:46 pm

Hello,
Yes, Bronsted acids are Lewis acids in the sense that the Lewis theory is more general than the Bronsted-Lowry theory. A Lewis acid accepts an electron pair, whereas a Bronsted acid donates a proton. In the same sense that a Bronsted acid is a proton donor, a proton acts as a Lewis acid when it attaches to a lone pair provided by a Lewis base.

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Re: Bronsted and Lewis acids/base

Postby Devika Nair 2D » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:01 pm

Lewis acids are any atoms/molecules that accept electron pairs. Bronsted acids accept electron pairs to replace a hydrogen (hydrogen ion donor). Lewis acids are more general, Bronsted acids are more specific. All Bronsted acids are Lewis acids, but not all Lewis acids are Bronsted acids.

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Re: Bronsted and Lewis acids/base

Postby Sophie Vikram 1L » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:04 pm

Lewis acids and bases are a more general definition of acids and bases. The lewis acid and base idea states that all electron donors are bases and acids accept these donated electrons. In a sense, electron donors/bases act somewhat as cations, and electron acceptors/acids act as anions. This is a very general idea; the bronsted-lowry idea of an acid and base involves the donation and acceptance of electrons/"protons" using the idea of hydrogen protons. Thus, it is more specific but still falls under the lewis acid and base categorization.

ALL bronsted acids/bases are lewis acids/bases but NOT ALL lewis acids/bases are bronsted acids/bases.

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Re: Bronsted and Lewis acids/base

Postby Caitlin Gee 2K » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:04 pm

You're correct because the Lewis theory has a more broad definition for acid, so it encompasses the definition of Bronsted acids. This means that all Bronsted acids are Lewis acids.

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Re: Bronsted and Lewis acids/base

Postby Isabelle Rieke-Wey 2G » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:23 pm

Hi!
This is true, because Lewis theory encompasses Bronsted acids as it has a more general/broad definition of acids. As a result, all bronsted acids are Lewis acids, but not the other way around.


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