conjugate base and pH

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Katie Bart 1I
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conjugate base and pH

Postby Katie Bart 1I » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:40 am

Why doesn't the conjugate base of a strong acid affect pH?

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Re: conjugate base and pH

Postby Sebastian Lee 1L » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:54 am

The conjugate base of a strong acid will not affect the pH because it is weak and stable. For example, if you have a Cl- anion in a salt, that is the conjugate base of HCl, a strong acid. Remember that strong acids will completely dissociate into ions so for HCl: . Cl- does NOT turn back into HCl because it is stable as it is in solution and HCl is a strong acid that will dissociate anyways. So if you had a salt like NaCl, the Cl- anion doesn't affect pH because it doesn't react with the water molecules to form OH-. The reaction does not actually form so the conjugate base of a strong acid does not make the solution more basic.

On the contrary if you had a conjugate base of a weak acid (like acetic acid), that would increase the pH. For acetic acid, the CH3CO2- conjugate base is strong enough that it will take a proton from water and form OH- ions in solution. Remember that in acetic acid, the reaction goes both ways so it is definitely possible for the acetate ion to bond with a hydrogen to form acetic acid and OH- ions (making it more basic).

Adelpha Chan 1B
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Re: conjugate base and pH

Postby Adelpha Chan 1B » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:07 pm

Katie Bart 1H wrote:Why doesn't the conjugate base of a strong acid affect pH?


The conjugate base of a strong acid is a stable compound that is also a weak base. As it is a stable compound, it does not have much charge and will not prompt further electron or proton transfer, therefore not affecting the pH

brennayoung
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Re: conjugate base and pH

Postby brennayoung » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:15 am

Adelpha Chan 1B wrote:
Katie Bart 1H wrote:Why doesn't the conjugate base of a strong acid affect pH?


The conjugate base of a strong acid is a stable compound that is also a weak base. As it is a stable compound, it does not have much charge and will not prompt further electron or proton transfer, therefore not affecting the pH



So if this was a strong base and unstable would it then affect the pH?

Sean Cheah 1E
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Re: conjugate base and pH

Postby Sean Cheah 1E » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:41 am

The seesaw relationship between the relative strengths of a conjugate acid/base pair states that the conjugate base of a strong acid will be a very weak base and the conjugate acid of a strong base will be a very weak acid. In these cases, the conjugates are so weak that they have basically no effect on the pH. On the other hand, with weak acids and bases, the resulting conjugates do affect the pH because the reaction will not go to completion and will instead settle into some kind of equilibrium.


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