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Sapling #3

Postby Jaden Ji 2K » Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:13 am

Hello! For the conjugate acid of HSO4- I put H3O+. Is that not the conjugate acid?

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Re: Sapling #3

Postby Summer_Corona 3L » Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:29 am

When you're asked for the conjugate acid you would write the original compound but with an extra H atom. So in this case it would be H2SO4.

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Re: Sapling #3

Postby Laura 3l » Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:39 am

Jaden Ji 3K wrote:Hello! For the conjugate acid of HSO4- I put H3O+. Is that not the conjugate acid?


When thinking about what it is asking for, the conjugate acid, first think about what that means. A base turns into a conjugate acid because when doing the reverse of the chemical reaction it would go back to being a base. So a conjugate acid has the potential to act like an acid and donate an H+ to go back to being a base. This is why for the conjugate acid you would add an H+.

This is how I have been interpreting conjugate acids and bases so I hope this helps or somewhat makes sense! :)

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Re: Sapling #3

Postby Jaden Ji 2K » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:08 am

Laura 3J wrote:
Jaden Ji 3K wrote:Hello! For the conjugate acid of HSO4- I put H3O+. Is that not the conjugate acid?


When thinking about what it is asking for, the conjugate acid, first think about what that means. A base turns into a conjugate acid because when doing the reverse of the chemical reaction it would go back to being a base. So a conjugate acid has the potential to act like an acid and donate an H+ to go back to being a base. This is why for the conjugate acid you would add an H+.

This is how I have been interpreting conjugate acids and bases so I hope this helps or somewhat makes sense! :)


Oh I see now!! Thank you so much!

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Re: Sapling #3

Postby Ven Chavez 2K » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:05 pm

A conjugate acid or base is just the counterpart of a molecule so H3O or hydronium would not be involved in the conjugate acid or base of HSO4. A conjugate acid means that it is gaining hydrogen so in this case HSO4- would become H2SO4. For a conjugate base, you would take away hydrogen from the molecule so HSO4- would become SO4^2-.

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Re: Sapling #3

Postby JonathanM » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:21 pm

Hey! I tend to view the conjugate acid as the acid that when a proton is removed results in the compound in question, so you simply have to add a proton, and vice versa for conjugate bases, just remove a proton.

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Re: Sapling #3

Postby Brandon Carris » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:43 pm

Conjugate bases and acids refer to the actual substance that needs to be conjugated.

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Re: Sapling #3

Postby Lesly Lopez 3A » Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:08 pm

Hi,
All late but for the conjugate acid, it's a base that turns into a conjugate acid. try to reason it, when doing the reverse of the chemical reaction it would go back to being a base. It donates an H+ to go back to being a base. This is why for the conjugate acid you would add an H+.

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Re: Sapling #3

Postby Neel Sharma 3F » Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:48 pm

H30+ is the conjugate acid of H20 which is acting as a base. The conjugate acid of HS04 is H2S04 as HS04 is acting as a base. Hope this helps!

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Re: Sapling #3

Postby Halle Villalobos 3E » Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:53 pm

Hi! The conjugate acid of HSO4- would be H2SO4 since you would be adding an H+.

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Re: Sapling #3

Postby Joshua Swift » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:45 pm

When the question asks for a conjugate acid of a certain molecule, you just add a proton (H+) to it. The conjugate acid of HSO4- should have been H2SO4

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Re: Sapling #3

Postby Andrew Dao 3C » Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:28 pm

Conjugate acids and bases usually mean the molecule has donated or received a proton (H+).

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Re: Sapling #3

Postby Nicole Bruno Dis 1B » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:00 am

Nope! The conjugate acid for HSO4- is H2SO4-, so the conjugate base would be SO4.


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