equilibrium constants [ENDORSED]
Moderators: Chem_Mod, Chem_Admin
-
- Posts: 107
- Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:27 am
-
- Posts: 23858
- Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:53 pm
- Has upvoted: 1253 times
Re: equilibrium constants
We do not have equilibrium constants for strong acids because strong acids are assumed to have dissociated completely.
-
- Posts: 108
- Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:24 am
Re: equilibrium constants
Hi Libby,
Like the Chem_Mod said, strong acids will completely dissociate and thus we do not need to use equilibrium constants.
For example if we are given 0.01 moles of HCl (strong acid), we would assume that the HCl will completely dissociate to H+ and Cl- and that we'd also have 0.01 moles of H+.
Hope this helped :)
Like the Chem_Mod said, strong acids will completely dissociate and thus we do not need to use equilibrium constants.
For example if we are given 0.01 moles of HCl (strong acid), we would assume that the HCl will completely dissociate to H+ and Cl- and that we'd also have 0.01 moles of H+.
Hope this helped :)
-
- Posts: 107
- Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:14 am
- Been upvoted: 6 times
Re: equilibrium constants [ENDORSED]
Hey Libby,
The concept of strong acid equilibrium values is actually really interesting. In scientific literature, you actually will find instances where they define the equilibrium constants for strong acids depending on the solvent--solvents stabilize conjugate bases to different degrees. I believe the professor explained that he will not provide Ka values due to the values being so large that full dissociation is a much better approximation of the acid's dissociation behavior.
In terms of assigning Ka values to strong acids, numerous chemists use this as a means of helping to determine reactions between acids. In fact, in instances where two acid species are present in an inert solvent, the weaker acid will deprotonate the stronger acid. A classical example of this is the reaction between sulfuric and nitric acid, where nitric acid will abstract a proton from sulfuric acid and form a complex that degrades. The actual equilibrium explanation of this phenomenon will be reliant on rationalizing the differential Kas.
Remember, is it easy to make the assumption that species always act as "Acids" or always "Bases" due to the misleading nature of the pH scale. In actuality, these terms define relations between other species. In typical general chemistry courses, "strong" and "weak" acids and bases are based on relative to water.
The concept of strong acid equilibrium values is actually really interesting. In scientific literature, you actually will find instances where they define the equilibrium constants for strong acids depending on the solvent--solvents stabilize conjugate bases to different degrees. I believe the professor explained that he will not provide Ka values due to the values being so large that full dissociation is a much better approximation of the acid's dissociation behavior.
In terms of assigning Ka values to strong acids, numerous chemists use this as a means of helping to determine reactions between acids. In fact, in instances where two acid species are present in an inert solvent, the weaker acid will deprotonate the stronger acid. A classical example of this is the reaction between sulfuric and nitric acid, where nitric acid will abstract a proton from sulfuric acid and form a complex that degrades. The actual equilibrium explanation of this phenomenon will be reliant on rationalizing the differential Kas.
Remember, is it easy to make the assumption that species always act as "Acids" or always "Bases" due to the misleading nature of the pH scale. In actuality, these terms define relations between other species. In typical general chemistry courses, "strong" and "weak" acids and bases are based on relative to water.
-
- Posts: 100
- Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:28 am
- Been upvoted: 2 times
Re: equilibrium constants
there are no equilibrium constants for reactions with strong acids because the reaction heavily favors the forward reaction or the formation of the products since the strong acid will be completely deprotonated in solution. the equation is therefore written with only a forward arrow
Return to “Calculating pH or pOH for Strong & Weak Acids & Bases”
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests