-OH vs OH-

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-OH vs OH-

Postby Anya Holbrook 1E » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:50 pm

This doesn't really have anything to do with calculating pH, but why is it that sometimes in Dr. Lavelle's notes he put -OH instead of OH-? Don't charges on a molecule or ion go after the naming?

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Evie Li_1H » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:52 pm

I don't think it's that big of a deal whichever side you decide to put the charge on but, traditionally, the charge will come after the ion.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby IshanModiDis2L » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:09 pm

I believe the charge usually will come after the ion but I do not think it rly does matter too much. Only time I would really consider it is when drawing a structure.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby JaylinWangDis1L » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:31 pm

I was also a little confused on this at first but I think the placement of the negative sign doesn't really matter. It's usually written after the ion.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Cooper_Geralds_3B » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:47 pm

Hi, I noticed the -OH in today's lecture as well and am used to seeing OH- in both his lectures and the homework, but I am pretty certain that they are the same!

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Ryan_Page_1J » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:26 pm

I have noticed that he uses them interchangeably as well.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby 505352202 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:45 pm

It does not really matter. When he puts the - before like -OH, he is trying to emphasize that the oxygen is the atom with the negative charge and not the hydrogen.

I hope this helps!

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby apurva-3E » Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:16 pm

I don't think it matters.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Brian Bui 3H » Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:21 pm

Does not matter, but I think that he puts the negative charge on the O because that O has a formal charge of -1, which is typically indicated with just a negative sign.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby SamayaJoshi1A » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:01 pm

-OH and OH- are the same thing!

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Isabel_Eslabon_2G » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:49 pm

It's the same thing. In general, is how you'd normally write it when writing a chemical equation. is used more when writing diagrams or mechanisms to emphasize that the negative charge is from the oxygen, not the hydrogen.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby DPatel_2L » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:01 pm

They are the same thing!

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Linette Choi 3L » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:37 pm

I believe (OH-) is used more often but I think they mean the same thing.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Katelynn Shaheen 2C » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:42 pm

It doesn't matter, -OH and OH- are the same thing in his lectures.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby August Blum Dis 3D » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:20 pm

Sometimes the notation is different for OH-, but either way, the molecule is the same. It shouldn't really matter how it is written. However, some put the charge next to the oxygen to demonstrate that it is the oxygen with the negative charge.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Sarah Lesmeister 2F » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:30 pm

I think it usually goes on the right but it means the same thing

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Anton Truskovsky 2K » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:48 pm

They mean the same thing. Use usually would use -OH in like a diagram to signify that it's definitely the oxygen that carries a negative charge.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby trevina_brown_2A » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:05 pm

OH- is used more often but it is basically the same thing.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Alessandra Marotta 3L » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:39 pm

I think it is most commonly written as OH-, but both -OH and OH- mean the same thing!

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Grant_2A » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:41 pm

as everyone is saying, it is the same thing, but I would recommend writing it as OH-. Hope this helps!

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby SuryaDham 3E » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:07 pm

I dont think it matters, the sign placement can be on either side.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby N Kanuri 2E » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:24 pm

As previous comments have said, I don't believe it matters. I think it is conventionally written as OH-, so that is what I use.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Emily2J » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:30 pm

hello, I was a little confused on this at first but I think the placement of the negative sign doesn't really matter.

Kristen Bansil 1G
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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Kristen Bansil 1G » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:31 pm

Hey there! I believe they are both the same but I usually keep the negative sign next to the O to remind me of its electronegativity, hope this helped!

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Alex Luong 3H » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:48 pm

They're the same.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Vivek Chotai 2C » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:04 am

OH- might be referring to the charge, but -OH might be representing the covalent bond between O and the other atom.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Acharya Ranawat 3E » Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:29 pm

I believe that these represent the same thing. The only difference may be that the -OH represents the bond between atoms, and the OH- may just represent the charge of it. Hope this helps!

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Reece Fong 2k » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:44 pm

Usually it just shows that the negative end of the dipole is by the O. Also though, OH is a connecting group sometimes and can be denoted as -OH (- being the side connecting).

Alex Luong 3H
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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Alex Luong 3H » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:50 pm

It shows which part of the molecule is slightly negative, which helps some see which part of the OH- molecule is binding to the entire molecule.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Srikar_Chintala_1E » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:09 pm

I don't think it holds much of a difference. It is probably just personal preference.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby daniellediem1k » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:10 pm

I don't think it matters either way, but I usually see it at the end.

Katherine Li 1A
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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Katherine Li 1A » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:14 pm

The hydroxyl ion is written as OH-. -OH refers to the hydroxyl group, where -OH is attached to some other molecule. The dash is only a minus sign in the first example.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Jiayin Yola Yan 1G » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:16 pm

They are essentially the same thing!

Talia Tam 3L
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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Talia Tam 3L » Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:56 pm

I think they're the same thing.

Maggie Clark
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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Maggie Clark » Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:52 pm

No difference!

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Carla Bruebach 1C » Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:14 pm

They both are the same things but normally the charge comes after the ion.

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Re: -OH vs OH-

Postby Claire Kim 1F » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:31 pm

Anya Holbrook 1E wrote:This doesn't really have anything to do with calculating pH, but why is it that sometimes in Dr. Lavelle's notes he put -OH instead of OH-? Don't charges on a molecule or ion go after the naming?


I think it's usually presented as OH- but both should mean the same thing.


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