4A. 1 Identifying open and closed system
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4A. 1 Identifying open and closed system
1. Identify the following systems as open, closed, or isolated:
(a) coffee in a very-high-quality thermos bottle; (b) coolant in a
refrigerator coil; (c) a bomb calorimeter in which benzene is
burned; (d) gasoline burning in an automobile engine; (e) mercury
in a thermometer; (f) a living plant.
How is (c) an isolated system ? Also How is (d) an open system?
(a) coffee in a very-high-quality thermos bottle; (b) coolant in a
refrigerator coil; (c) a bomb calorimeter in which benzene is
burned; (d) gasoline burning in an automobile engine; (e) mercury
in a thermometer; (f) a living plant.
How is (c) an isolated system ? Also How is (d) an open system?
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Re: 4A. 1 Identifying open and closed system
A calorimeter is designed to be a closed system because it is supposed to measure the gain or loss of heat. A car engine is an open system because it is not contained or isolated in a container, even if it might be physically enclosed, for example in a car.
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Re: 4A. 1 Identifying open and closed system
D is an open system because it has interactions externally with the environment, it is releasing energy into the air. C is a closed system because the bomb calorimeter is designed to keep gases in so no gas is released to interact with the environment.
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An open system can exchange both matter and energy with the surroundings. A car engine is an open system because it exchanges heat and matter (carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, water, and other byproducts) with its surroundings. An isolated system can exchange neither energy nor matter with its surroundings. A bomb calorimeter qualifies as an isolated system because it is both sealed and heavily insulated.
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Re: 4A. 1 Identifying open and closed system
Juliana Chopelas 1A wrote:D is an open system because it has interactions externally with the environment, it is releasing energy into the air. C is a closed system because the bomb calorimeter is designed to keep gases in so no gas is released to interact with the environment.
Why is C a closed system? Wouldn't a bomb calorimeter in which benzene is burned be an isolated system? The example Lavelle gave in class of an isolated system was the combustion of glucose in a bomb calorimeter, so I'm assuming it would be the same for this problem, but if I am wrong please correct me.
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Re: 4A. 1 Identifying open and closed system
d is an open system because matter is allowed to exit the engine through the exhaust in the form of CO2
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c) is an isolated system because the calorimeter does not allow exchange of matter or eneergy with the surroundings, and d) is an open system because gasoline in an automobile can change in tempertaure (energy) and in matter (which is why we need to refill our tank).
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C is a closed system as the clariometer does not allow the transfer of energy to the suroundings.
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I see that everyone is saying C is either a closed or isolated system. For clarification, the textbook solutions states that it is an isolated system. It's an isolated system because nothing is being exchanged with the environment in the bomb calorimeter. In a closed system, energy can be exchanged with the surroundings.
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For D, matter and energy can be exchanged into the engine. Therefore, it is an open system.
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For the bomb calorimeter, their design is made to be an isolated system. This is just a fact listed in the book and the only way you can distinguish it between a closed or isolated system.
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Just to clarify, all biological systems are closed systems?
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