Accurate Bond Enthalpies

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Accurate Bond Enthalpies

Postby Michelle Zhang 1J » Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:39 pm

Dr. Lavelle mentioned in lecture that the bond enthalpies of diatomic molecules are accurate. Does that mean the bond enthalpy, for example, between Cl-Cl only in Cl2 is accurate? Or does that mean the bond enthalpy for Cl-Cl in any molecule that contains two Cl's connected together is accurate?

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Re: Accurate Bond Enthalpies

Postby Stephen_Kim_1D » Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:53 pm

He means that only diatomic molecule bond enthalpies are exactly accurate (Cl-Cl bond enthalpy is exactly accurate to Cl2). A C-H bond enthalpy, however, would not be exactly accurate to the energy required to break a bond in CH4, for example (the C-H bond enthalpy is an average between many types of hydrocarbons). So your first statement is right and your second is wrong.

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Re: Accurate Bond Enthalpies

Postby Talia Tam 3L » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:09 pm

I think that he means only bonds between two atoms of the same type in a molecule with only those two atoms are accurate. The example of Cl2 that you gave is correct.

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Re: Accurate Bond Enthalpies

Postby Allison Li 2F » Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:57 pm

I think he means only diatomic molecule bonds are accurate. The Cl-Cl bond in Cl2 is only for diatomic Cl2, whereas Cl-Cl bonds in other molecules are influenced by the bond enthalpies, making them "averages".

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Re: Accurate Bond Enthalpies

Postby Barbara Soliman 1G » Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:56 pm

It is only diatomic molecules whose bond enthalpies are accurate. For a Cl-Cl bond in any molecule, you are still getting "pulls" from the other atoms in the molecules, thus an average would be needed across all molecules that include a Cl-Cl bond. This would make it not as accurate. Hope this helps!

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Re: Accurate Bond Enthalpies

Postby Molly McAndrew 1 1H » Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:14 pm

Does this only apply to the 7 specific diatomic molecules, or are there any other examples that are considered 100% accurate?

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Re: Accurate Bond Enthalpies

Postby Kaitlyn Bateman 1L » Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:18 pm

Because molecules with multiple bonds are difficult to measure the bond energy of each individual bond, those are averages and would be less accurate. If it a simple diatomic molecule, then it can be measured and it would be accurate.


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