3 different methods

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Megan Bundy 2K
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3 different methods

Postby Megan Bundy 2K » Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:06 pm

in terms of exam questions, will we be given a situation and be able to choose which method to use, or will we be required to figure it out in one specific method?

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Re: 3 different methods

Postby AudreyQian1J » Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:14 pm

Hello,
Using which method would depend on the information that is given in the question. For example, if a table of values of bond enthalpies are given in the equation, then we use bond enthalpies to calculate enthalpy reaction (method 2 in lecture). If we are given a table of standard enthalpies of formation, we would use sum of enthalpies of formation of products minus the sum of enthalpies of formation of reactants (method 3 in lecture). And if a series of reactions is given, we would use Hess's Law.

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Re: 3 different methods

Postby Jack Amos 2I » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:35 pm

AudreyQian1J wrote:Hello,
Using which method would depend on the information that is given in the question. For example, if a table of values of bond enthalpies are given in the equation, then we use bond enthalpies to calculate enthalpy reaction (method 2 in lecture). If we are given a table of standard enthalpies of formation, we would use sum of enthalpies of formation of products minus the sum of enthalpies of formation of reactants (method 3 in lecture). And if a series of reactions is given, we would use Hess's Law.

So we will be given values of bond enthalpies or standard enthalpies, we won't have to memorize them? I missed it if Dr. Lavelle did mention that.

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Re: 3 different methods

Postby Aanjaneyaa » Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:50 pm

It really does depend on the situation. Often times, the question will state whether they want you to use one method over another.

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Re: 3 different methods

Postby Hannah Thornton 1F » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:24 pm

You would choose which method to use depending on the situation, or if the question tells you which to use. If reactions are given, you would use Hess's Law. If the question gives you the bond enthalpy values, then you would use the bond enthalpy method. If the standard enthalpies of formation is given, then you would use that method.

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Re: 3 different methods

Postby Eric Sun 2G » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:28 am

I think that we will be expected to know how to use all 3 methods as each problem could provide different information that we would have to use to solve for the enthalpy of the reaction.

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Re: 3 different methods

Postby AudreyQian1J » Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:26 pm

Jack Amos 2I wrote:So we will be given values of bond enthalpies or standard enthalpies, we won't have to memorize them? I missed it if Dr. Lavelle did mention that.


I don't think we need to memorize them. They will be given in the problem.

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Re: 3 different methods

Postby Isabelle Kim 3E » Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:52 pm

I'm pretty sure that it would be quite straightforward given the information in the problem in order to select which method must be used to calculate for the enthalpy change. For example, it would make sense to use bond enthalpy method when given the mean bond enthalpies of the presented molecules in the problem.

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Re: 3 different methods

Postby 005493723 » Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:16 pm

I think we will be able to tell by the given information of the problem. Since Lavelle usually gives enough information and doesn't expect memorization of many values, you can usually deduct what method can be used with the info


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