Diatomics

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Alyssa Cheung 3I
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Diatomics

Postby Alyssa Cheung 3I » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:40 pm

If enthalpy of formation measures the energy to create a compound, why specifically do the diatomics have a deltaH value of 0?

BB Richardson 2E
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Re: Diatomics

Postby BB Richardson 2E » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:43 pm

I believe they're in their most stable/natural state, and thus have an enthalpy of 0.

UdbhavAvadhani3F
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Re: Diatomics

Postby UdbhavAvadhani3F » Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:45 pm

Their standard enthalpy is zero because their natural, or standard, form is as the diatomic molecule, so there is no change in enthalpy from how they normally are.

Kimberly_Wu_3H
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Re: Diatomics

Postby Kimberly_Wu_3H » Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:19 pm

There would be no change in enthalpy because their standard enthalpy is 0.

Daniella Viorato 2G
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Re: Diatomics

Postby Daniella Viorato 2G » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:36 pm

Diatomics have a deltaH value of 0 because they are in their most stable form, so the measurement is from their starting form which equates to 0

Jude Marting 2l
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Re: Diatomics

Postby Jude Marting 2l » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:40 pm

Diatomics are in their most stable state meaning that they would have no change of enthalpy. Meaning that they have a deltaH value of 0.

yesmal1J
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Re: Diatomics

Postby yesmal1J » Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:36 pm

Yes, enthalpy of formation measures the energy to create a compound however with diatomic molecules it isn't actually changing from its original form so its always zero.

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Re: Diatomics

Postby 405690892 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:14 pm

Diatomic molecules don't change the original form, making the enthalpy zero.

Siena Bertacco 1G
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Re: Diatomics

Postby Siena Bertacco 1G » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:34 pm

They are zero at this state because they are at their purest form. When a substance has a standard enthalpy formation of zero it means that it is at its most stable form. It is the condition at which it is able to exist at its natural form.

Ben Hsieh 3I
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Re: Diatomics

Postby Ben Hsieh 3I » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:37 pm

In 1/27's lecture, the reason is explained as diatomics being in their most stable form already. Think of it as H2 (g) -> H2 (g) where there is essentially no change or formation meaning that delta H is kept constant at 0.

Ryan Sebti 3I
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Re: Diatomics

Postby Ryan Sebti 3I » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:40 pm

Diatomics specifically have a standard enthalpy of formation of 0, since they are the standard, most stable, state at standard conditions (1atm, 25C).

To further illustrate this, basically the standard enthalpy of formation reaction would look like (for oxygen gas):
O2(g) --> O2(g), which would obviously be 0, since it would require zero energy for it to stay the same.

Rebecca Liu 2E
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Re: Diatomics

Postby Rebecca Liu 2E » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:40 pm

Yes, to add on, the diatomics mostly are gases in their most stable/natural states, except Br2 (liquid) and I2 (solid). Standard enthalpy of formation would be 0 for elements in their most stable states.

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Re: Diatomics

Postby Madeline Redmond 2A » Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:21 pm

Since all diatomic molecules are already in their most stable states already, the enthalpy change of formation is 0 because there is no change in the heat absorbed or released to make the compound stay in its most stable state.


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