The question was as follows:
A 100.0L vessel containing 6.00mol of Ne at 2.00atm is cooled to 203.0K. Assuming the monoatomic gas behaves ideally, calculate delta U and delta H for this process and describe the thermodynamic reaction.
I calculated the initial temperature and got -203.2K but I am uncertain of which formulas to use from here.
Thank you!
Wednesday Quiz #2 (2015)
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Re: Wednesday Quiz #2 (2015)
At constant pressure, delta H = q (heat).
You can find q from q = nC(delta T).
We know that n = 6.00 moles.
And C, since it is a monatomic ideal gas at constant pressure, must be 5/2R, where R is the gas constant.
What is the change in temperature? We must find the initial temperature and then do final - initial.
Temperature can be found from PV = nRT. We isolate for T so T = PV/nR. Make sure to check units for this part!!!
T = (2.00 atm)(100.0 L)/((6.00 mol)(0.08206 Latm/Kmol)). Make sure you use the right gas constant!
The answer is T initial = 406.2 K
We know that T final is 203.0 K
Thus the change in temperature is 203.0 - 206.2 = -203.2 K (like you correctly calculated).
Now plug all of that in to find q, thus delta H! Once again, make sure to use the right gas constant.
q = (6.00 mol)(5/2 x 8.3145 J/Kmol)(-203.2) = -25343 J rounded to -25.3 kJ. This is delta H.
Now for delta U. Fortunately, as well as being at constant pressure, we are also at constant volume. Therefore, delta U = q. Delta U also = -25.3 kJ.
At constant volume AND constant pressure, delta H = delta U!
You can find q from q = nC(delta T).
We know that n = 6.00 moles.
And C, since it is a monatomic ideal gas at constant pressure, must be 5/2R, where R is the gas constant.
What is the change in temperature? We must find the initial temperature and then do final - initial.
Temperature can be found from PV = nRT. We isolate for T so T = PV/nR. Make sure to check units for this part!!!
T = (2.00 atm)(100.0 L)/((6.00 mol)(0.08206 Latm/Kmol)). Make sure you use the right gas constant!
The answer is T initial = 406.2 K
We know that T final is 203.0 K
Thus the change in temperature is 203.0 - 206.2 = -203.2 K (like you correctly calculated).
Now plug all of that in to find q, thus delta H! Once again, make sure to use the right gas constant.
q = (6.00 mol)(5/2 x 8.3145 J/Kmol)(-203.2) = -25343 J rounded to -25.3 kJ. This is delta H.
Now for delta U. Fortunately, as well as being at constant pressure, we are also at constant volume. Therefore, delta U = q. Delta U also = -25.3 kJ.
At constant volume AND constant pressure, delta H = delta U!
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Re: Wednesday Quiz #2 (2015)
My TA said that for ΔU, we would use C=3/2 R since we are at constant volume and plug that into q=nCΔT. Since constant volume means w=-PΔV=0, it follows that ΔU=q+w=q+0=q.
In this sense, ΔU and ΔH will not be the same, since Cv is used for calculating ΔU and Cp for ΔH.
In this sense, ΔU and ΔH will not be the same, since Cv is used for calculating ΔU and Cp for ΔH.
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Re: Wednesday Quiz #2 (2015)
Oh you're right, my bad! Delta U = delta H at constant volume and pressure only when we're working with solids and liquids. For gases, the gas constant changes. Sorry about that :)
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