q_system + q_surroundings = 0

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q_system + q_surroundings = 0

Postby Sasha Gladkikh 2A » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:16 pm

What is the concept behind the equation q_system + q_surroundings = 0? Is this equation only applicable for reactions that occur in calorimeters? And if so, why?

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Re: q_system + q_surroundings = 0

Postby Meghan Spoeri 2D » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:31 pm

Hi! If you were to set them equal to each other, you would get q system = -q surroundings. This means that the heat lost by a system is gained by the surroundings and vice versa. In other words, the total energy remains constant in interactions between a system and its surroundings. I'm not sure about whether this applies to reactions in a calorimeter or not, however.

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Re: q_system + q_surroundings = 0

Postby Brynn 2F » Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:02 pm

Calorimeters measure energy transferred as heat. Heat lost by a reaction is gained by a calorimeter. I believe this also applies when a calorimeter is not being used. In that case it's simply the environment or surroundings that is gaining the energy.

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Re: q_system + q_surroundings = 0

Postby Kayla Tran 3C » Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:23 pm

q_system + q_surroundings = 0 because heat is being exchanged between the two, so they are equal and opposite in sign. I think it is still applicable without calorimeters.

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Re: q_system + q_surroundings = 0

Postby Emily Engelkemier 1E » Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:25 pm

Any heat that is lost by the system is gained by the surroundings (equal and opposite in sign), and any heat gained by the system is lost by the surroundings.

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Re: q_system + q_surroundings = 0

Postby William Huang 1K » Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:36 pm

This kind of ties into the conservation of energy, where energy cannot be created nor destroyed, because energy (lets say in the form of heat) being released by a system is absorbed by the surroundings; absorbing energy is positive and losing energy is negative, so if an equal amount of energy is lost and gained by the system and the surroundings respectively, the sum of those 2 numbers is 0.

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Re: q_system + q_surroundings = 0

Postby 405669838 » Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:52 pm

Hi! I believe this is because q is the change in heat. If the system I staining heat, it is going it from the surroundings, so the surrounding change in heat is that same amount, but negative (and the vice versa is true). Therefore, when added together the product should be 0.


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