When to use "W = -nrt" and "W = -pdV"

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AndresElizarraras 2A
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When to use "W = -nrt" and "W = -pdV"

Postby AndresElizarraras 2A » Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:23 pm

Can anyone help me identify when we use the equations W = - nrt and when we use W = -pdv

W, of course, means work in this context.

Thank you!

Ankit Budhiraja 3D
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Re: When to use "W = -nrt" and "W = -pdV"

Postby Ankit Budhiraja 3D » Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:15 pm

Considering that there are these two equations for work, I think their usage is dependent on which variable you are given in the context of a problem. Specifically, if you have the variables pertaining to one of the equations rather than the other, you would be able to use them to solve for work. Basically, based on this, I understand that the usage of each of these work equations is based upon the context of the question and what is already being given.

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Re: When to use "W = -nrt" and "W = -pdV"

Postby Eleanor_C_1I » Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:46 pm

Like the previous reply notes, I think this depends on the information given in the problem. n refers to moles whereas p represents pressure so your usage of these 2 equations would depend on which you were given. Additionally, we know we can convert between moles and pressure using PV=nRT, depending on what other info we have as well.

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Re: When to use "W = -nrt" and "W = -pdV"

Postby AliciaRoice_1K » Fri Feb 03, 2023 6:59 pm

I agree with Eleanor. Both equations use distinctly different variables, so the -nrt equation would be more useful when you are given an amount in moles, and -pdV would be more appropriate when you are given a pressure and change in volume, such as with a cylindrical piston problem.

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Re: When to use "W = -nrt" and "W = -pdV"

Postby Cylin Wang 2H » Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:21 pm

As a follow-up question. Will this course involve calculating work for liquids and solids? I've been wondering that because both these formulas do not work for liquids and solids (W=-nrt relies on ideal gas law; dV=0.)


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