Numbering

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Jasmine Alcantara 3G
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Numbering

Postby Jasmine Alcantara 3G » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:29 pm

For numbering multiple constituents, do we always make the first constituent the lowest possible number even when sacrificing a smaller overall number total? Or are we going for the lowest sum total?

Mannat Sukhija 1E
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Re: Numbering

Postby Mannat Sukhija 1E » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:51 pm

I believe you want to aim for the first number to be as small as possible opposed to a smaller sum of substituent numbers.

Janice Kim 3I
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Re: Numbering

Postby Janice Kim 3I » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:51 pm

Hey! When numbering multiple constituents, always aim for the lowest sum total. If there is equal numbering between constituents (for example 2,3 or 3,2) then apply the lowest number to the first alphabetical constituent, not including the prefixes.

DBaquero
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Re: Numbering

Postby DBaquero » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:03 pm

I believe Professor Lavelle told us to aim for the lowest first number. If the first number would be the same either way then aim for the lowest second number as well (and so on).

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Re: Numbering

Postby andrea_Disc3D » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:01 pm

I heard someone say that you should also number a molecule so that you have the most substituents. I was wondering if anyone knew whether this was true or not?

ribal_daniel_3H
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Re: Numbering

Postby ribal_daniel_3H » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:37 am

The way I see it is that we should strive to have the longest carbon chain. Also you want the first number to be the lowest I think. So if you have a 2 or 4-methyl and a 2 or 4-ethyl on a pentane, you would write 2-ethyl-4methylpentane.

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Re: Numbering

Postby angelicapayne » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:20 pm

My TA mentioned the sum rule works only in some cases so it is not always a reliable way to determine numbering

Neha Jonnalagadda 2D
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Re: Numbering

Postby Neha Jonnalagadda 2D » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:18 pm

I think that we have to do the lowest first number and then make sure that you have the most substituents.

Jennifer Kainth 3L
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Re: Numbering

Postby Jennifer Kainth 3L » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:59 pm

Professor Lavelle had told us to aim for the lowest first number. If the first number is the same, the second lowest number is your next option.

Casey Fineberg
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Re: Numbering

Postby Casey Fineberg » Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:29 pm

When numbering multiple constituents in organic compounds, the general rule is to assign the lowest possible number to the first constituent and then proceed to assign the lowest numbers to the other constituents in alphabetical order.

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Re: Numbering

Postby 405718358 » Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:44 am

what I remember being told is that we should always try to assign lowest number possible to the first constituent.


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